[nvda] Re: Just A Comment of Information

That's great. 

I just want to say in all of this that Espeak is worth getting used to. Fast, 
small, and although robotic, concise.

Ben Moser

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Bill Cox <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I agree that we need to be working on the legal open source synths
> like Mary TTS, which is why I'm supporting it with SpeechHub.  I
> personally feel the copyright needs of a company that refuses to
> legally sell a synth to a blind individual should not override the
> needs of that blind person.  I used voxin legally for a couple of
> years in Linux, and when I switched to Windows I felt unable to live
> without the Eloquence voice, yet I used NVDA, so I admit I found an
> illegal copy for a while.  However, I tried to support the effort to
> make Eloquence legally available for NVDA, but Nuance has not been
> willing to work with the NVDA developers.  I put very many hours into
> making Mary TTS work well enough or me to use, including even building
> the second male voice listed with the deep tones, because I needed a
> non-Eloquence voice I could listen to at high speed comfortably.
> Since Thanksgiving, I no longer use Eloquence, and instead rely on the
> Mary TTS voice.  However, I am not blind, and not even yet legally
> blind.  I even still drive during the day.  I have Stargartd's
> Disease, and my central vision is slowly fading, but I'm still able to
> deal with the low performance of Mary TTS, and it's occasional crashes
> far better than a blind person who must have stable responsive speech.
> So, I'm an early and enthusiastic early adopter of Mary TTS.  I do
> not expect many blind people to follow me early on in dropping
> Eloquence, but long term I hope that Mary TTS will be a solid
> alternative.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On 2/8/12, shaun everiss <sm.everiss@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have long since stopped caring for the companies and their software.
>> I legally use it on my phone.
>> There are better synths than it to use on my pc.
>> At any rate you can't access all of its voices anyway.
>> And to be honest we should really be concentrating on legal options
>> like the new speech hub, as it has potentual.
>> At 10:48 p.m. 7/02/2012 +0000, you wrote:
>>> i THINK IT IS DIRTY OF ANYONE TO DEAL WITH A KNOWN PIRATE. i'VE BEEN
>>> TO THE SIGHT, AND i KNOW THAT IT HAS THE ILLEGAL SYNTH THERE.
>>> 
>>> i AM WITH ANYONE WHO HAS IS AGRAVATED WITH THE COMPANYS THAT WILL
>>> NOT GIVE THE nvda PROJECT THE TIME OF DAY, OR JUST LEAD US AROUND BY
>>> THE NOSE. uLTIMATELY, THOUGH, THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BEHAVE RUDELY, AND
>>> THAT GIVES US  NO RIGHT TO STEAL THEIR SOFTWARE. eNOUGH OF US KNOW,
>>> AND CAN SEE THAT THIS DROP BOX ACCOUNT HAS THAT SYNTH AVAILABLE ON
>>> IT, WE SHOULD NOT PLAY IGNORANT. jUST IN THE PAST FEW DAYS THERE WAS
>>> A THREAD ABOUT MAKING THAT THING WORK WITH nvda. tHIS IS ALLOWING
>>> FOR CONFUSION IN MY OPINION.
>>> 
>>> sORRY FOR THE RANT, BUT i JUST FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT SUCH THINGS, AND
>>> DON'T WANT nvda TO SUFFER IN ANY WAY FROM IT, WHETHER IT BE LEGAL,
>>> OR USERS THAT WALK AWAY CONFUSED.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/02/12 11:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
>>>> Well it's his drop box and I don't see what it has to do with me or
>>>> you or anyone else he is not talking about on the list so what is the
>>>> problem?
>>>> 
>>>> If someone wants that synth they will have it one way or another
>>>> the only way to stop it is if the devs make nvda just not work with
>>>> it under any circumstances.
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/02/2012 07:00, David Tanner wrote:
>>>>> It has come to my attention that the synth folder in the NVDA Dropbox
>>>>> contains the necessary files to install the unmentionable synth.
>>>>> I am wondering if that is appropriate???
>>> 
>>> Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA
>>> Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate
>>> at:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/wiki/Donate
>>> Or by purchasing voices from Ivona TTS:
>>> http://www.ivona.com/accessibility.php
>>> Use the following link with the code STOR-4NS3-DSCT to save 10% on
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>> 
>> 
>> Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA
>> Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/wiki/Donate
>> Or by purchasing voices from Ivona TTS:
>> http://www.ivona.com/accessibility.php
>> Use the following link with the code STOR-4NS3-DSCT to save 10% on Voices
>> from nextup.com:
>> http://bit.ly/eJN97w
>> To post messages to the list send email to
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>> NVDA on Facebook:
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>> The NVDA controler DLL is at:
>> http://www.nvda-project.org/nvdaControllerClient/
>> NVDA Snapshot Downloader:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1473937/NVDASD-v2.0.2.exe
>> Get SkypeTalking for NVDA:
>> http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
>> 
> Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA
> Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/wiki/Donate
> Or by purchasing voices from Ivona TTS:
> http://www.ivona.com/accessibility.php
> Use the following link with the code STOR-4NS3-DSCT to save 10% on Voices 
> from nextup.com:
> http://bit.ly/eJN97w
> To post messages to the list send email to
> nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To modify your NVDA Email settings or view archives go to:
> http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda
> NVDA homepage:
> http://www.nvda-project.org/
> NVDA on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
> The NVDA controler DLL is at:
> http://www.nvda-project.org/nvdaControllerClient/
> NVDA Snapshot Downloader:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1473937/NVDASD-v2.0.2.exe
> Get SkypeTalking for NVDA:
> http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA
Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at:
http://www.nvaccess.org/wiki/Donate
Or by purchasing voices from Ivona TTS:
http://www.ivona.com/accessibility.php
Use the following link with the code STOR-4NS3-DSCT to save 10% on Voices from 
nextup.com:
http://bit.ly/eJN97w
To post messages to the list send email to
nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To modify your NVDA Email settings or view archives go to:
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NVDA homepage:
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The NVDA controler DLL is at:
http://www.nvda-project.org/nvdaControllerClient/
NVDA Snapshot Downloader:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1473937/NVDASD-v2.0.2.exe
Get SkypeTalking for NVDA:
http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/

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