[nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda

I'd love for NVDA to work with Eudora, :), so there. :) <grin> guys, you're doing a super job with this screen reader! No joke, it is quite wonderful what has happened with the access to APPS with NVDA. 

Curtis Delzer

At 07:42 PM 5/26/2008, you wrote:
Not trying to be rigid and not having a bad day either. Sorry you think my comments were rude and poorly thought out. Of course anyone is free to make Itunes work with NVDA. I don't think it's the core teams desire at this point in time though to support it when there aer so many other things to get going correctly first. 

Rick
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From: <mailto:erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>erik burggraaf
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda

Rick, I think that's a very fridgid stance to take.
It's sertainly true that iTunes is not a commonly used app in the blind community, and it's also true that nvda needs work on many aspects of windows, internet explorer being a prime example. Yes, it's also true that nvda is still a very new project, and the main, I want to stress main, developers have a lot on their plate right now to wit iTunes accessibility is not and probably should not be a priority for the next stable release.
Having said all that, NVDA is not jaws or window-eyes. There are not a limitted number of people who can work on it, and there are very few time/cost considerations. Python and it's manuals are free, and there's nothing to stop any one with the inclination from learning. You, or I, or Jose, or any one who chanced to see the original request could write the support, or maybe they already were, and hadn't said anything because it's in development and they didn't think many people would be interested. Such person could not only write extentions, but they could rewrite parts of the main program to suit them in the iTunes world.
I agree that this isn't too likely, but I also think it's a bit premature to come down on some one and make them look small for requesting a feature they use all the time. Maybe he already got with the developers and offered to donate if he could get this access and switch full time. Maybe you're just having a bad day, but it doesn't sound like these two posts were very well thought out. We should not go around discouraging people even if their aspirations aren't entirely realistic or in line with ours. 

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On 26-May-08, at 2:46 PM, Rick Harmon wrote:
ITunes is something you consider adding support for once your screen reader matures enough. This is a 0.6 release, not even up to version 1.0 yet. We really should consider that before requesting certain things to be supported. 

Rick
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From: <mailto:allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>Allan Wong
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda
yeah, what is ITunes when IE also not perfect still. for my opinion, internet explorer is much much important compare with ITunes. 

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From: <mailto:rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Rick Harmon
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 05:22
To: <mailto:nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda
There are so many other much more important things than ITunes that the team should be working on. 

ITunes just isn't that big a deal to the majority of us.

Rick
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From: <mailto:jose.lomeli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jose Lomeli
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda
Actually I have an iPOD Shuffle not a nano or a video. So I can't put rockbox on it. 
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From: <mailto:bigd.vi.guy@xxxxxxxxx>Derek Roberts
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda

Hi,
Not sure how NVDA would handle this, but ITunes uses custome Apple controls i believe. Maybe the IAccessible libraries have a fix for this? Also have you tried rockbox? I'd put a direct link to the site here but my links never become links on the other end, at least not how i want them to. The site is rockbox.org. 
I am also on there forums as big d.
HTH.
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From: <mailto:jose.lomeli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jose Lomeli
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Idea for next release of nvda
Hello; Listers, I don't post much. But I got an idea for the next release of nvda. How about support for iTUNES and iPOD? Let me know about this idea because some of us have iPODs and we would like to put music on the iPOD. If this happends I'll give up JAWS anytime! 
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