[nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda

and your responses were even ruder jose.

Rick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jose Lomeli 
  To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:30 PM
  Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


  Well, It sounded rude. Rick, an advice for you, Think before you say anything 
because if you don't you can easily put down people.
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rick Harmon 
    To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:42 PM
    Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


    Not trying to be rigid and not having a bad day either.  Sorry you think my 
comments were rude and poorly thought out.  Of course anyone is free to make 
Itunes work with NVDA.  I don't think it's the core teams desire at this point 
in time though to support it when there aer so many other things to get going 
correctly first.

    Rick
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: erik burggraaf 
      To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:24 PM
      Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


      Rick, I think that's a very fridgid stance to take.


      It's sertainly true that iTunes is not a commonly used app in the blind 
community, and it's also true that nvda needs work on many aspects of windows, 
internet explorer being a prime example.  Yes, it's also true that nvda is 
still a very new project, and the main, I want to stress main, developers have 
a lot on their plate right now to wit iTunes accessibility is not and probably 
should not be a priority for the next stable release.


      Having said all that, NVDA is not jaws or window-eyes.  There are not a 
limitted number of people who can work on it, and there are very few time/cost 
considerations.  Python and it's manuals are free, and there's nothing to stop 
any one with the inclination from learning.  You, or I, or Jose, or any one who 
chanced to see the original request could write the support, or maybe they 
already were, and hadn't said anything because it's in development and they 
didn't think many people would be interested.  Such person could not only write 
extentions, but they could rewrite parts of the main program to suit them in 
the iTunes world.


      I agree that this isn't too likely, but I also think it's a bit premature 
to come down on some one and make them look small for requesting a feature they 
use all the time.  Maybe he already got with the developers and offered to 
donate if he could get this access and switch full time.  Maybe you're just 
having a bad day, but it doesn't sound like these two posts were very well 
thought out.  We should not go around discouraging people even if their 
aspirations aren't entirely realistic or in line with ours.


      Best,


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      On 26-May-08, at 2:46 PM, Rick Harmon wrote:


        ITunes is something you consider adding support for once your screen 
reader matures enough.  This is a 0.6 release, not even up to version 1.0 yet.  
We really should consider that before requesting certain things to be supported.

        Rick
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Allan Wong
          To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:31 PM
          Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


          yeah, what is ITunes when IE also not perfect still. for my opinion, 
internet explorer is much much important compare with ITunes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

          Warmest Regards,
          Allan Wong



          From: Rick Harmon
          Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 05:22
          To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


          There are so many other much more important things than ITunes that 
the team should be working on. 

          ITunes just isn't that big a deal to the majority of us.

          Rick
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Jose Lomeli
            To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:14 PM
            Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


            Actually I have an iPOD Shuffle not a nano or a video. So I can't 
put rockbox on it.
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              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Derek Roberts
              To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 1:50 PM
              Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


              Hi,

              Not sure how NVDA would handle this, but ITunes uses custome 
Apple controls i believe. Maybe the IAccessible libraries have a fix for this? 
Also have you tried rockbox? I'd put a direct link to the site here but my 
links never become links on the other end, at least not how i want them to. The 
site is rockbox.org.
              I am also on there forums as big d.
              HTH.
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Jose Lomeli
                To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:51 PM
                Subject: [nvda] Idea for next release of nvda


                Hello; Listers, I don't post much. But I got an idea for the 
next release of nvda. How about support for iTUNES and iPOD? Let me know about 
this idea because some of us have iPODs and we would like to put music on the 
iPOD. If this happends I'll give up JAWS anytime!
                Jose Lomeli
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