[nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda

good grief all I said is they should work on other things first before adding 
support for something like that.  Grow up already.

Rick  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jose Lomeli 
  To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:27 PM
  Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


  Exactly Erik, It was a question and a question it is. For crying out loud 
Rick, it was only a question!
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: erik burggraaf 
    To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:24 PM
    Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


    Rick, I think that's a very fridgid stance to take.


    It's sertainly true that iTunes is not a commonly used app in the blind 
community, and it's also true that nvda needs work on many aspects of windows, 
internet explorer being a prime example.  Yes, it's also true that nvda is 
still a very new project, and the main, I want to stress main, developers have 
a lot on their plate right now to wit iTunes accessibility is not and probably 
should not be a priority for the next stable release.


    Having said all that, NVDA is not jaws or window-eyes.  There are not a 
limitted number of people who can work on it, and there are very few time/cost 
considerations.  Python and it's manuals are free, and there's nothing to stop 
any one with the inclination from learning.  You, or I, or Jose, or any one who 
chanced to see the original request could write the support, or maybe they 
already were, and hadn't said anything because it's in development and they 
didn't think many people would be interested.  Such person could not only write 
extentions, but they could rewrite parts of the main program to suit them in 
the iTunes world.


    I agree that this isn't too likely, but I also think it's a bit premature 
to come down on some one and make them look small for requesting a feature they 
use all the time.  Maybe he already got with the developers and offered to 
donate if he could get this access and switch full time.  Maybe you're just 
having a bad day, but it doesn't sound like these two posts were very well 
thought out.  We should not go around discouraging people even if their 
aspirations aren't entirely realistic or in line with ours.


    Best,


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    On 26-May-08, at 2:46 PM, Rick Harmon wrote:


      ITunes is something you consider adding support for once your screen 
reader matures enough.  This is a 0.6 release, not even up to version 1.0 yet.  
We really should consider that before requesting certain things to be supported.

      Rick
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Allan Wong
        To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:31 PM
        Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


        yeah, what is ITunes when IE also not perfect still. for my opinion, 
internet explorer is much much important compare with ITunes.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

        Warmest Regards,
        Allan Wong



        From: Rick Harmon
        Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 05:22
        To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


        There are so many other much more important things than ITunes that the 
team should be working on. 

        ITunes just isn't that big a deal to the majority of us.

        Rick
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Jose Lomeli
          To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:14 PM
          Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


          Actually I have an iPOD Shuffle not a nano or a video. So I can't put 
rockbox on it.
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            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Derek Roberts
            To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 1:50 PM
            Subject: [nvda] Re: Idea for next release of nvda


            Hi,

            Not sure how NVDA would handle this, but ITunes uses custome Apple 
controls i believe. Maybe the IAccessible libraries have a fix for this? Also 
have you tried rockbox? I'd put a direct link to the site here but my links 
never become links on the other end, at least not how i want them to. The site 
is rockbox.org.
            I am also on there forums as big d.
            HTH.
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Jose Lomeli
              To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:51 PM
              Subject: [nvda] Idea for next release of nvda


              Hello; Listers, I don't post much. But I got an idea for the next 
release of nvda. How about support for iTUNES and iPOD? Let me know about this 
idea because some of us have iPODs and we would like to put music on the iPOD. 
If this happends I'll give up JAWS anytime!
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