[nvda] Re: How to use Google Reader with NVDA

My turn for the "gentle reminder"-this is not an NVDA topic. Aria is here, will grow, was not created by the NVDA DEV team, will be wanted by some if not most potential screenreader users, and we should be grateful that we have people working on this whether or not we plan to personally take advantage of the doors opened. I will close by saying that in many ways I wish the INTERNET would focus more on "pure information" delivery, but as it is and should be largely unregulated and in a certain sense democratic we need to self restrain and moderate. This has led in part to the growth of micro blogging, soc-media, and other components of web 2.0. Of course it will always be a race for the blind-user to find tech to help him or her to keep up with the ever changing content on the screen. I wish that more backwards compatibility would be maintained and for longer, not so much for blind Luddites, but for folks in the third world who still often can't come up with money for pencils and paper for their kids to go to school; much less a relatively new laptop capable of using all of what is out there. (for those of you that haven't thought about it they don't have electricity 24/7 if at all, and need a portable device that can run a few hours with out plugging in to have a fighting chance) How many people from African countries where English is spoken, and there are high percentages of blind folks are writing on this list? Many of you don't even have to work, and are complaining about having to learn something new. I don't like it all/don't use it all/fortunately don't have many friends that use bleeping Twitter, but if it will help my biz one day....I have a few friends that use ms messenger/don't want to/still don't/may some day. Peace, and let's try to keep the group a bit more on topic; at least let's kill sub-threads after the second off nvda msg, or take them somewhere else. There are groups, mailing lists, twitter, facebook groups, skype groups can be formed, many im and irc channels....(you guys made me write twitter/whaah) sex, Peace, and NVDA! (no sex posts please) (there is sex talk on the web if you didn't know)...grin... 
Burt Henry
(won't be the first time I got flamed, but you guys are mostly pretty civilized.) if the only tool you have is a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail. 




On 11/6/2009 5:38 café, Vince Thacker wrote:

At one time we had a thing called the telegraph, through which you could
receive things called telegrams, which were static documents. Then there
were teleprinters which could give you live news results. ARIA is more
like the teleprinter. I'm being deliberately quaint here to illustrate
that we've been here before, and I can only see ARIA as a potentially
good thing.

Vince.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Shang" <geoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: How to use Google Reader with NVDA




On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:


I'm still not convinced that areas make much sense. To me keeping
things on different pages makes more logical sense. Otherwise you
might as well make every web site on just one big page.


uh. I think you missunderstand what is being discussed here.

What people are talking about here is ARIA (A R I A), which stands for
Accessible Rich Internet Applications. I'm not very up on this, but my
understanding is that the web is moving towards online applications
embedded in web pages, at least for some things. We've already been
grappling wiht pages using Ajax and Flash, with limited if any
accessibility. As I understand it, ARIA is an attempt to provide the
ability to provide such applications in an accessible, standardised way.

It may interest you to know that NVDA is one of the leaders in ARIA
support in screen readers, thanks to work done under the various
Mozilla grants.

My view is that ultimately ARIA will be good for us, as it should mean
that we will have access to these applets rather than be fumbling
around with inaccessible buttons etc. But it's going to take a little
while for screen readers, browsers and web content authors to get
everyting straightened out so that it all works as it should.

Geoff.

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