[nvda] Re: Hello
- From: "Brian Gaff" <bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:42:03 -0000
I do understand where you are coming from about Firefox. Its another one of
those problems owhere real world use and the resources and such do not marry
up everywhere.
I'm no fan of Microsoft, but one of the things I've found with computers in
'normal' whatever that is, households is that the sighted do not want
things installed, so adding Firefox is often just not an option. It may well
be that my experience is unique to where I am in the UK and local
conditions etc, but it is very much the case that showing that there is no
change for the sighted, not even adding a user, is a great selling point
when letting 'the blind' loose on the machine.
I know its a short sighted attitude by the family, I know its
discriminatory, but that is the way life is.
Anyway, enough of this, I hope you will be able to at least fix some of the
more obvious IE problems as soon as possible.
With regard to beeps, hmm, I have to pass on the how to's, and your system
works much faster than some readers whose beeps appear to be in wav files,
the playing of which slugs everything.
I like, for instance, the Dolphin noise on caps better than the pitch
change, but there is no doubt that it slows things down.
Brian
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From: "James Teh" <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Hello
Brian Gaff wrote:
Hi, thanks for the info. I use the release version for people I'm trying
to entice into computers as its pretty stable.
This is fair enough and is normally what I would recommend. Unfortunately,
the stable release of NVDA is really very out of date. This will hopefully
not be the case for too much longer, though there are several reasons for
this upon which I won't elaborate here.
I understand about IE now. I guess if you can get a reliable system
working with a reliable browser, then you can use the tricks learned for
another one. I must say though, and this is a personal opinion, most
people I'm trying to entice into computer use do not want to download
another browser, and I'd have imagined getting it to work with an out of
the box Windows might be more useful to many newbies with not enough cash
for a commercial screen reader.
Perhaps. However, being a free and open source product ourselves, we feel
a certain inclination towards supporting other open source software. We
also receive much greater support from open source software developers and
it is thus much easier for us to implement support in NVDA. Finally,
organisations such as the Mozilla Foundation have provided us with several
grants in order to further NVDA's development. Aside from our obligations
under these grants, we feel a certain obligation to support software from
such organisations first and foremost.
Re the beeps. I preferred the old ones myself. The new ones sound shrill
and almost square wave like to me. However these are personal prefs of
course.
Indeed. Unfortunately, the old ones sounded a bit soft and
indistinguishable to some. Personally, I would prefer something between
the new and the old ones, but the maths for generating these tones is a
bit tricky for some of us. :)
Jamie
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Hi, thanks for the info. I use the release version for people I'm trying to entice into computers as its pretty stable.This is fair enough and is normally what I would recommend. Unfortunately, the stable release of NVDA is really very out of date. This will hopefully not be the case for too much longer, though there are several reasons for this upon which I won't elaborate here.
I understand about IE now. I guess if you can get a reliable system working with a reliable browser, then you can use the tricks learned for another one. I must say though, and this is a personal opinion, most people I'm trying to entice into computer use do not want to download another browser, and I'd have imagined getting it to work with an out of the box Windows might be more useful to many newbies with not enough cash for a commercial screen reader.Perhaps. However, being a free and open source product ourselves, we feel a certain inclination towards supporting other open source software. We also receive much greater support from open source software developers and it is thus much easier for us to implement support in NVDA. Finally, organisations such as the Mozilla Foundation have provided us with several grants in order to further NVDA's development. Aside from our obligations under these grants, we feel a certain obligation to support software from such organisations first and foremost.
Re the beeps. I preferred the old ones myself. The new ones sound shrill and almost square wave like to me. However these are personal prefs of course.Indeed. Unfortunately, the old ones sounded a bit soft and indistinguishable to some. Personally, I would prefer something between the new and the old ones, but the maths for generating these tones is a bit tricky for some of us. :)
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