[nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?

you are talking eloquence are you not? Not nearly as robotic as the best espeak voice, and it will run fast, change pitch and is clear to me. 
Burt

On 11/6/2009 4:55 café, Vince Thacker wrote:

Reid is one I use quite a bit where I want a voice that will run fast,
and it seems to stay pretty clear even if rather robotic. I think they
did their UK research during a swine flu pandemic.

Vince.

----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?




Hi again, Vince,
I just down-loaded everything that seemed to be free on the page you
suggested. I didn't know the ms voices were available for sapi 4 as
well as 5/using Mary now. A few will be fun for special uses, but most
seem somewhere west of weird, and unless other configs of eloquence
don't work nearly as well as that used by JFW...let's just say we and
some others and I will have to agree to disagree. Not all of the
eloquence voices are that good either, but read and glen (American
English), are very clear, and some of the others are decent counter
points. The Spanish LH voices seem pretty good. The UK Eng. voices
sound like; dunno maybe Danish or maybe Polish people who have lived
in the Uk for years? I hope that one day NVEDA will support voice
changes to represent links or quoted material, atribute changes....
Any, thanks again, and I'll will play around with the new talk bots...
Burt


On 11/5/2009 9:52 chela, Vince Thacker wrote:

Bert,

This page at Nextup is useful.

http://www.nextup.com/TextAloud/SpeechEngine/voices.html#morefreevoices

This includes Older Free Voices. Here you can get Mary, Mike and Sam
(book!) from Microsoft, and L&H voices, which are no worse than
Eloquence, let's put it like that.

----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?




Yes, I have seen the names you mention as real speak solo direct
voices. I'll d-load and try Mary for a change. As you say espeak is a
bit noisy, robotic, harsh, but responsive, and very light weight. If
you know where to get thees as stand alone, please let me know. I only
know of the configs sold, or included for commercial screenreaders.
Thanks
Burt
c

On 11/5/2009 6:34 chela, Vince Thacker wrote:

Bert, Assuming the Realspeak voices are the same as the Scansoft ones
(if not the Nuance ones - it is hard to keep up!) .... I did download
a free one called Emily which is a rather distorted UK voice, and
I've also used Daniel from the same stable. Big difference in quality
(Daniel being much more hi-fi). These voices won't run as fast as
some people run their screen readers, but they are much nicer (even
Emily is) for reading limpid prose. For e-mails, there probably isn't
much advantage.

I've used MS Mary for years and find she's a pretty good compromise -
not too robotic, and can run pretty fast without cracking up too
much. Each to their own tastes of course, but I find a voice like
Mary less tiring than e-speak, which seems to me to have a much
higher noise to signal ratio.

Vince.

----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with
nvda?




Yes the Mary voice sounds much nicer than sam
I will dow-load it from jaws-users.com, (just in case anyone else
wants it)
I have played with it for a minute or two only on vista boxes.
BTW--the site I mentioned is a personal venture by a jfw user, not
an official site/lots of free stuff.
Do the larger real speak voice files give better results than the
smaller ones? I have noticed a difference with in the same language
of almost 2/1 in MBs.
Burt


On 11/5/2009 1:46 café, shaun everiss wrote:

aah ok so you probably don't want my email then.
the only other sapi4 tts thats actually good is either the ms sapi
tts us mary voice, or the lhtts 3000 uk english.
everything else sucks.
I think at&t supports sapi 4 and 5 but I broke things when trying
to load it and well it never worked.
At 03:43 p.m. 5/11/2009, you wrote:


I like real-speak solo for reading large blocks of txt, but for
working it isn't very flexible in my experience/I'm interested,
but would also like to know about where to buy eloquence, or
anything else that can work with NVDA. Please get in touch.
Burt


On 11/4/2009 7:13 chela, shaun everiss wrote:


hmmm if you can afford the 30 or so bucks sapi5 engines like
realspeak solo will workk
there is no other engine that really sounds ok.
if you want more info on the realspeak I know where I can get one
cheap, but you need to email me off list.
At 01:32 p.m. 5/11/2009, you wrote:



I can't find the key to a program that uses via voice that I
have. I repeat that I don't mind paying a bit for eloquence, but
want a version that I don't have to hack if I am going to pay.
Also I'd be willing to try another sapi4 engine if anyone can
recommencement anything. Espeak is good in some ways-it's loud,
fast, and reliable/easy to adjust, but a bit harsh for some days.
Burt

t
On 11/4/2009 2:16 café, Brian's mail list account wrote:



Its actually quite intriguing, as I have a copy of Hal on this
machine, and it has Eloquence on it. However at some other time
in the past I installed a copy of ibm via voice, which is sapi
4 and seems to work on anything. Hal says that although
Eloquence drivers are here, it cannot be used as a copy of via
voice is already active.
nvda seems happy to use any sapi 4 including via voice. (no
please do not put on here any links to via voice as its
officially been taken down)

However I do not want to provoke another off topic discussion
on this sensitive topic. I'm merely pointing out that the
usability of whatever voices happen to be on a machine depends
on how those supplying it arrange things, and its best to just
accept what is and
not hack things. For a start you might be legally in hot water,
and secondly, one can never be quite sure you won't break
something in Windows or a screenreader unless you know what you
are doing!

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris
Hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth
with nvda?


No. The Eloquence that is shipped with JAWS is tied to JAWS
only.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of burt henry
Sent: 03 November 2009 4:02 PM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth
with nvda?

I
I have JFW with the eloquence synth installed on this computer,
but NVDA
does not seem to recognize it. How does one make configurations
for
such things. I thought it automatically should look for and
recognize
sapi 4 speech engines when selecting synthesizer.
Burt

On 11/3/2009 7:45 café, brian gafff (Line One) wrote:



Do you mean with Espeak or a different synth, and is this in
say all
situations? I've never thought the pauses were perticularly
weird,
but then it depends on the speed its reading at I imagine.

Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Seims"
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To:<nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Comma and Full Stop Pauses?


Hello,

I have a query on behalf of friend about NVDA.

I recently installed it on his machine and he is very happy
with it but
he find that it it does not pause when a full stop is reached
and he
thinks that the pause given for a comma may is a bit too
long. He
wonderes if somehow it has things the wrong way round as far
as commas
and full stops are concerned. Does anyone else have this
problem and if
so is there a fix?

Many thanks.

Regards,
Melissa

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