[nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?

Yes, you can use the 11.5khz versions but they do sound a bit like comb and paper. 

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?


what program? was it a stand alone speech engine?  I think Daniel is
pretty popular in the UK at least.  The good real speak voices all seem
to require around MB 100, with the smaller voice files worse at high
reading speeds?

On 11/6/2009 3:55 café, Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:

For the record I got licenses for  Dan and Serena with a program I
purchased, and there is no restriction on use as far as I can tell.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?



Yes, I have seen the names you mention as real speak solo direct
voices. I'll d-load and try Mary for a change. As you say espeak is a
bit noisy, robotic, harsh, but responsive, and very light weight. If
you know where to get thees as stand alone, please let me know. I only
know of the configs sold, or included for commercial screenreaders.
Thanks
Burt
c

On 11/5/2009 6:34 chela, Vince Thacker wrote:

Bert, Assuming the Realspeak voices are the same as the Scansoft ones
(if not the Nuance ones - it is hard to keep up!) .... I did download
a free one called Emily which is a rather distorted UK voice, and I've
also used Daniel from the same stable. Big difference in quality
(Daniel being much more hi-fi). These voices won't run as fast as some
people run their screen readers, but they are much nicer (even Emily
is) for reading limpid prose. For e-mails, there probably isn't much
advantage.

I've used MS Mary for years and find she's a pretty good compromise -
not too robotic, and can run pretty fast without cracking up too much.
Each to their own tastes of course, but I find a voice like Mary less
tiring than e-speak, which seems to me to have a much higher noise to
signal ratio.

Vince.

----- Original Message ----- From: "burt henry" <burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth with nvda?




Yes the Mary voice sounds much nicer than sam
I will dow-load it from jaws-users.com, (just in case anyone else
wants it)
I have played with it for a minute or two only on vista boxes.
BTW--the site I mentioned is a personal venture by a jfw user, not an
official site/lots of free stuff.
Do the larger real speak voice files give better results than the
smaller ones? I have noticed a difference with in the same language
of almost 2/1 in MBs.
Burt


On 11/5/2009 1:46 café, shaun everiss wrote:

aah ok so you probably don't want my email then.
the only other sapi4 tts thats actually good is either the ms sapi
tts us mary voice, or the lhtts 3000 uk english.
everything else sucks.
I think at&t supports sapi 4 and 5 but I broke things when trying to
load it and well it never worked.
At 03:43 p.m. 5/11/2009, you wrote:


I like real-speak solo for reading large blocks of txt, but for
working it isn't very flexible in my experience/I'm interested, but
would also like to know about where to buy eloquence, or anything
else that can work with NVDA. Please get in touch.
Burt


On 11/4/2009 7:13 chela, shaun everiss wrote:


hmmm if you can afford the 30 or so bucks sapi5 engines like
realspeak solo will workk
there is no other engine that really sounds ok.
if you want more info on the realspeak I know where I can get one
cheap, but you need to email me off list.
At 01:32 p.m. 5/11/2009, you wrote:



I can't find the key to a program that uses via voice that I
have. I repeat that I don't mind paying a bit for eloquence, but
want a version that I don't have to hack if I am going to pay.
Also I'd be willing to try another sapi4 engine if anyone can
recommencement anything. Espeak is good in some ways-it's loud,
fast, and reliable/easy to adjust, but a bit harsh for some days.
Burt

t
On 11/4/2009 2:16 café, Brian's mail list account wrote:



Its actually quite intriguing, as I have a copy of Hal on this
machine, and it has Eloquence on it. However at some other time
in the past I installed a copy of ibm via voice, which is sapi 4
and seems to work on anything. Hal says that although Eloquence
drivers are here, it cannot be used as a copy of via voice is
already active.
nvda seems happy to use any sapi 4 including via voice. (no
please do not put on here any links to via voice as its
officially been taken down)

However I do not want to provoke another off topic discussion on
this sensitive topic. I'm merely pointing out that the usability
of whatever voices happen to be on a machine depends on how
those supplying it arrange things, and its best to just accept
what is and
not hack things. For a start you might be legally in hot water,
and secondly, one can never be quite sure you won't break
something in Windows or a screenreader unless you know what you
are doing!

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris
Hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth
with nvda?


No. The Eloquence that is shipped with JAWS is tied to JAWS only.

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Of burt henry
Sent: 03 November 2009 4:02 PM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: Comma and Full Stop Pauses?...other synth
with nvda?

I
I have JFW with the eloquence synth installed on this computer,
but NVDA
does not seem to recognize it. How does one make configurations
for
such things. I thought it automatically should look for and
recognize
sapi 4 speech engines when selecting synthesizer.
Burt

On 11/3/2009 7:45 café, brian gafff (Line One) wrote:



Do you mean with Espeak or a different synth, and is this in
say all
situations? I've never thought the pauses were perticularly
weird,
but then it depends on the speed its reading at I imagine.

Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Seims"
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Comma and Full Stop Pauses?


Hello,

I have a query on behalf of friend about NVDA.

I recently installed it on his machine and he is very happy
with it but
he find that it it does not pause when a full stop is reached
and he
thinks that the pause given for a comma may is a bit too long. He
wonderes if somehow it has things the wrong way round as far as
commas
and full stops are concerned. Does anyone else have this
problem and if
so is there a fix?

Many thanks.

Regards,
Melissa

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