[nvda] Re: Audacity problem

John

You wrote in part:

As for the original subject of the thread.  If

the programmer's of Audasity will put in 2 or 3 lines of code as an
identifier of those radio buttons, it would save the programmers of NVDA,
Jaws, Window Eyes etc. hours of work trying to extend the capabilities of
the screen reader to accomodate a single application.
I didn't raise the Audacity question as just dealing with a problem with one single application. I raised it because the same problem that causes NVDA not to see the associated text with the radio buttons may occur in many applications perhaps a large number. I have no idea how many applications may have this problem. I also don't know if the problem is limited to radio buttons or if it can happen in other structures as well. My point is that if the NVDA developers identify the problem, they can then determine how likely it is to affect just a small number of applications or a significant number. I don't expect NVDA to solve this problem immediately. I don't know how serious the problem is so I don't know if, or when it will ever be solved. However, NVDA, as I understand it, has the goal of providing good access to a wide variety of applications. Yes, if the Audacity developers add code, that's fine but that doesn't mean the problem will be solved. It will just be solved for one application. JAWS and Window-eyes both see the text associated with the radio buttons. System Access, NVDA, Thunder and Narrator don't see the text. My question is why NVDA doesn't see it and what the implications are for NVDA. Yes, developers should make programs accessible but in the real world, screen-readers need to do what is reasonable to function in less than ideal conditions where material is actually accessible but may not be available in the most common or simple manner. Perhaps this is a limitation caused by the lack of video hooks, if that is the correct term and NVDA can't correct it until such time as hooks are created. However, since I don't have the technical knowledge to know or research the problem, I report it in the interest of further development. If this problem occurs in thirty or forty percent of applications a blind person may want to use and JAWS and Window-eyes don't have this problem, it makes no sense to believe that these thirty or forty percent of applications are going to be modified by their designers to solve a problem where the most widely used screen-readers don't have difficulty. Even where a problem affects all screen-readers, many designers are simply not going to do anything about it.
Gene 
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