[nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
- From: "ben swig" <swigjr23@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:09:09 -0500
I agree if I had to put that on my computer it would probably mess up
something. Also, if you want a service bad enough just have a sighted person
help you or call the company and ask them for help.
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:00:48 -0500
well that would mean having to have the virus on your computer in order to
reverse engineer it, no thanks, i will just stick to my guns of if they
dont want to make it accessible to me i won't use it. Cant really think of
any service that yahoo has that i can't use another somewhere else anyway.
Yahoo MEssenger? Well I have MSN Messenger. Auctions? I have e bay.
Search engine? I have google. Online purchasing? Even amazon has made
their website accessible to the blind now. If sites like yahoo can't do it
it is their loss not mine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
you don't have to install the virus, just reverse-engineer it.
Josh
Most of the reason I don't like spam is because a lot of it is true.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
well the thing about that is, I am not going to install a virus on my
computer just to circumvent a visual thing. If a company does not want
to have any alternative for the blind they don't get my business, simple
as that.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Talksina" <talksina@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
Hi,
I read in some technology-related news feeds, that there was a worm
called Spammer.HotLan.a, which is able to skip visual confirmation boxes
in yahoo, hotmail and other similar services.
That means that captcha's can be bypassed by spam bots, but not by
visually impaired people! I am talking about those services (yahoo,
myspace, paypal italy, facebox, click and buy...) which have no audio
support at all, the human operator system of yahoo has no sense, it's
easier to call a sighted person and make him/her read captcha for us...
My idea was to find the worm executable, and to find someone who can
reverse engineer this malicious code, taking all the bad thing away,
considering just the part of code used to skip captchas
My idea would be to include this feature in NVDA, and when the NVDA user
register to yahoo or other service, the registration is sent even
without captcha. Of course agreeing with service providers, to use a
specific tag; this semi-automated process would send a warning, together
with registration data, that is "[THIS USER IS A NVDA BLIND USER,
CAPTCHA SKIPPED]"
Well, this is just an idea, unfortunately I have no knowledge to
implement this or to reverse engineer the worm, but I have a contact
with a "worm collector" maybe he can help
bye.
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From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:00:48 -0500well that would mean having to have the virus on your computer in order to reverse engineer it, no thanks, i will just stick to my guns of if they dont want to make it accessible to me i won't use it. Cant really think of any service that yahoo has that i can't use another somewhere else anyway. Yahoo MEssenger? Well I have MSN Messenger. Auctions? I have e bay. Search engine? I have google. Online purchasing? Even amazon has made their website accessible to the blind now. If sites like yahoo can't do it it is their loss not mine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
you don't have to install the virus, just reverse-engineer it. Josh Most of the reason I don't like spam is because a lot of it is true. email: jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx msn: kenn6498ku@xxxxxxxxxxx AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming wormwell the thing about that is, I am not going to install a virus on my computer just to circumvent a visual thing. If a company does not want to have any alternative for the blind they don't get my business, simple as that.----- Original Message ----- From: "Talksina" <talksina@xxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:47 AM Subject: [nvda] An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming wormHi,I read in some technology-related news feeds, that there was a worm called Spammer.HotLan.a, which is able to skip visual confirmation boxes in yahoo, hotmail and other similar services. That means that captcha's can be bypassed by spam bots, but not by visually impaired people! I am talking about those services (yahoo, myspace, paypal italy, facebox, click and buy...) which have no audio support at all, the human operator system of yahoo has no sense, it's easier to call a sighted person and make him/her read captcha for us... My idea was to find the worm executable, and to find someone who can reverse engineer this malicious code, taking all the bad thing away, considering just the part of code used to skip captchas My idea would be to include this feature in NVDA, and when the NVDA user register to yahoo or other service, the registration is sent even without captcha. Of course agreeing with service providers, to use a specific tag; this semi-automated process would send a warning, together with registration data, that is "[THIS USER IS A NVDA BLIND USER, CAPTCHA SKIPPED]" Well, this is just an idea, unfortunately I have no knowledge to implement this or to reverse engineer the worm, but I have a contact with a "worm collector" maybe he can helpbye. To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
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