[nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:28:43 -0500
Again the thing is, I can almost bet NVDA will not have something like that
knowingly placed in it to get past them. That is the same as cracking
software, bypassing a websites security is of the same mentality. It is
also not legal to do such things so this is of course a dead issue. As I
said NVDA is a screen reader not a security bypass tool, not a tool that
cracks software.
----- Original Message -----
From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
you probably wouldn't have to run the file.
there are loads of decompilers out there and you would probably load the
file and decompile it.
At 11:45 p.m. 16/07/2007, you wrote:
well the thing about that is, I am not going to install a virus on my
computer just to circumvent a visual thing. If a company does not want to
have any alternative for the blind they don't get my business, simple as
that.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Talksina" <talksina@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming worm
Hi,
I read in some technology-related news feeds, that there was a worm
called Spammer.HotLan.a, which is able to skip visual confirmation boxes
in yahoo, hotmail and other similar services.
That means that captcha's can be bypassed by spam bots, but not by
visually impaired people! I am talking about those services (yahoo,
myspace, paypal italy, facebox, click and buy...) which have no audio
support at all, the human operator system of yahoo has no sense, it's
easier to call a sighted person and make him/her read captcha for us...
My idea was to find the worm executable, and to find someone who can
reverse engineer this malicious code, taking all the bad thing away,
considering just the part of code used to skip captchas
My idea would be to include this feature in NVDA, and when the NVDA user
register to yahoo or other service, the registration is sent even without
captcha. Of course agreeing with service providers, to use a specific
tag; this semi-automated process would send a warning, together with
registration data, that is "[THIS USER IS A NVDA BLIND USER, CAPTCHA
SKIPPED]"
Well, this is just an idea, unfortunately I have no knowledge to
implement this or to reverse engineer the worm, but I have a contact with
a "worm collector" maybe he can help
bye.
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you probably wouldn't have to run the file.there are loads of decompilers out there and you would probably load the file and decompile it.
At 11:45 p.m. 16/07/2007, you wrote:
well the thing about that is, I am not going to install a virus on my computer just to circumvent a visual thing. If a company does not want to have any alternative for the blind they don't get my business, simple as that.----- Original Message ----- From: "Talksina" <talksina@xxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:47 AM Subject: [nvda] An idea for NVDA coming from a spamming wormHi,I read in some technology-related news feeds, that there was a worm called Spammer.HotLan.a, which is able to skip visual confirmation boxes in yahoo, hotmail and other similar services. That means that captcha's can be bypassed by spam bots, but not by visually impaired people! I am talking about those services (yahoo, myspace, paypal italy, facebox, click and buy...) which have no audio support at all, the human operator system of yahoo has no sense, it's easier to call a sighted person and make him/her read captcha for us... My idea was to find the worm executable, and to find someone who can reverse engineer this malicious code, taking all the bad thing away, considering just the part of code used to skip captchas My idea would be to include this feature in NVDA, and when the NVDA user register to yahoo or other service, the registration is sent even without captcha. Of course agreeing with service providers, to use a specific tag; this semi-automated process would send a warning, together with registration data, that is "[THIS USER IS A NVDA BLIND USER, CAPTCHA SKIPPED]" Well, this is just an idea, unfortunately I have no knowledge to implement this or to reverse engineer the worm, but I have a contact with a "worm collector" maybe he can helpbye. To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda -- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/900 - Release Date: 14/07/2007 3:36 p.m.
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