[nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:03:51 +0200
Just to update the info, now i'm running nvda from the latest source with
the same results. The cursor doesn't want to stop in MS Word when i tell him
to stop and the errors with selecting in various edid boxes is still here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "List account (downstairs)" <bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
I don't know about the first one, but in Word I've had odd things happen
with many screenreaders. The cursor oddity may I suppose be the way the
system thinks you left it. I'm never quite sure if a reader should
increment the cursor position or not, it would be nice to be able to do
either sometimes.
Yes, combo boxes and highlighted text saying dieselected I have noticed
recently, as with the non reading of some edit areas when you are actually
trying to edit them. Goldwave has both these effects. In the case of the
edit fields I imagine this is the way the system reveals the contents.
Some edit fields work others do not. Look at Access for an example.
The deselected thing is, I think the system telling the truth. It correct
on many edit fields when you start to edit, but not on combo boxes which
momentarily go non highlighted of course.
Brian
bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "NVDA mailing list" <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Hey all.
I have a few very interesting observations with the latest 2300 snapshot
and
i saw them in the earlier snapshots so i'd like to check if the rest of
the
people have the same issues, or if it could be fixed somehow, or
something
is wrong with my system.
1. When i use miranda messenger, if i focus to the output window with all
written and incoming messages, if i scroll with and arrow keys to read
the
messages, when ever the message is read, after that nvda starts to
deselect
all the text from the window and it starts to read its content from top
to
bottom of the window. Does anyone has a clew what's going on?
2. I have ms office 2003 sp3, and if i read the text in ms word and i
stop
the cursor with ctrl key, the cursor doesn't stop on the position where i
stopped it, instead the cursor is somewhere on the beginning of the
current
page of the document, and sometimes even on the previous page, so i can't
find out where i stopped the reading of the document. Is there the way
how
to solve this problem or does anyone has a clew what could cause this
kind
of behaviour? I'm also looking for a solution of putting the bookmark or
placemarker or something in the document so that i can start reading
where i
stopped last time if the document is closed in the mean time.
3. If i'm in the windows explorer or my computer, and for exampel i want
to
rename the file name, if i press f2 to change the name of the file, when
i
move thru the file name with left and right arrow keys, first what i hear
is
"unselected". So it looks like that whole file name is selected and if i
move with the arrows it becomes unselected.
4. When i'm in the excel 2003 and when i scroll thru the data sheet with
and
arrow keys, nvda is reading their contents but if i try to edit the sheet
with f2 and copy its content, nvda doesn't anounce anything. The same is
if
i scroll thru the data sheet with tab or shift tab keys, nvda stays
quiet.
Also, if the cell has written comment, nvda doesn't anounce it at all,
but
the other screen reader can identify it. Ok that could be the issue with
MSAA but anyway, very interesting behaviour, because if i'm correct that
worked before and i could edit the cells and read what's inside without
problems.
I'm attaching my log file if it could help.
Regards
mario
To post messages to the list send email to
nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To modify your NVDA Email settings go to:
http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda
Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open
source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:
http://www.nvda-project.org/
To get the latest NVDA snapshot:
http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/
Report bugs or make feature requests at:
http://trac.nvda-project.org/
Message Archive:
http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
To post messages to the list send email to
nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To modify your NVDA Email settings go to:
http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda
Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open
source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:
http://www.nvda-project.org/
To get the latest NVDA snapshot:
http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/
Report bugs or make feature requests at:
http://trac.nvda-project.org/
Message Archive:
http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
- References:
- [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: Mario Percinic
- [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: List account \(downstairs\)
Other related posts:
- » [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- » [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Yes, combo boxes and highlighted text saying dieselected I have noticed recently, as with the non reading of some edit areas when you are actually trying to edit them. Goldwave has both these effects. In the case of the edit fields I imagine this is the way the system reveals the contents. Some edit fields work others do not. Look at Access for an example.
The deselected thing is, I think the system telling the truth. It correct on many edit fields when you start to edit, but not on combo boxes which momentarily go non highlighted of course.
Brian bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "NVDA mailing list" <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Hey all.I have a few very interesting observations with the latest 2300 snapshot and i saw them in the earlier snapshots so i'd like to check if the rest of the people have the same issues, or if it could be fixed somehow, or somethingis wrong with my system. 1. When i use miranda messenger, if i focus to the output window with allwritten and incoming messages, if i scroll with and arrow keys to read the messages, when ever the message is read, after that nvda starts to deselect all the text from the window and it starts to read its content from top tobottom of the window. Does anyone has a clew what's going on?2. I have ms office 2003 sp3, and if i read the text in ms word and i stopthe cursor with ctrl key, the cursor doesn't stop on the position where istopped it, instead the cursor is somewhere on the beginning of the currentpage of the document, and sometimes even on the previous page, so i can'tfind out where i stopped the reading of the document. Is there the way how to solve this problem or does anyone has a clew what could cause this kindof behaviour? I'm also looking for a solution of putting the bookmark orplacemarker or something in the document so that i can start reading where istopped last time if the document is closed in the mean time.3. If i'm in the windows explorer or my computer, and for exampel i want to rename the file name, if i press f2 to change the name of the file, when i move thru the file name with left and right arrow keys, first what i hear is"unselected". So it looks like that whole file name is selected and if i move with the arrows it becomes unselected.4. When i'm in the excel 2003 and when i scroll thru the data sheet with andarrow keys, nvda is reading their contents but if i try to edit the sheetwith f2 and copy its content, nvda doesn't anounce anything. The same is if i scroll thru the data sheet with tab or shift tab keys, nvda stays quiet. Also, if the cell has written comment, nvda doesn't anounce it at all, butthe other screen reader can identify it. Ok that could be the issue with MSAA but anyway, very interesting behaviour, because if i'm correct that worked before and i could edit the cells and read what's inside without problems. I'm attaching my log file if it could help. Regards mario
To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:
http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive:http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
- [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: Mario Percinic
- [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: List account \(downstairs\)