[nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:18:49 +0200
Mick or someone else, do you have any other clews why nvda behaves strange
with ms office and with errors which i described earlier?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Curran" <michaeldamiencurran@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Hi,
SayAll should move the cursor as it reads in edit controls, and richEdit
controls. So this does include Notepad.
In fact on my system it works fine. What speech synthesizer are you using?
perhaps it is not giving back the correct indexing info to NVDA.
Mick
Matěj Plch wrote:
Yes, that.s true.
I have one issue to solve.
When I read text in the notepad (via insert + down arrow), the cursor
does not move down with the text. It means, that when I stop reading,
cursor is still on the top of the text. So I must find the position via
ctrl + f (find dialog). For example in MS Word there are no problems
with it. I think, that this problem is only in rich edit text fields.
I hope, that this issue will be fixed soon.
Thanks a lot.
Best regards
Matěj Plch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic"
<mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "NVDA mailing list" <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Hey all.
I have a few very interesting observations with the latest 2300
snapshot and
i saw them in the earlier snapshots so i'd like to check if the rest
of the
people have the same issues, or if it could be fixed somehow, or
something
is wrong with my system.
1. When i use miranda messenger, if i focus to the output window with
all
written and incoming messages, if i scroll with and arrow keys to read
the
messages, when ever the message is read, after that nvda starts to
deselect
all the text from the window and it starts to read its content from
top to
bottom of the window. Does anyone has a clew what's going on?
2. I have ms office 2003 sp3, and if i read the text in ms word and i
stop
the cursor with ctrl key, the cursor doesn't stop on the position where
i
stopped it, instead the cursor is somewhere on the beginning of the
current
page of the document, and sometimes even on the previous page, so i
can't
find out where i stopped the reading of the document. Is there the way
how
to solve this problem or does anyone has a clew what could cause this
kind
of behaviour? I'm also looking for a solution of putting the bookmark or
placemarker or something in the document so that i can start reading
where i
stopped last time if the document is closed in the mean time.
3. If i'm in the windows explorer or my computer, and for exampel i
want to
rename the file name, if i press f2 to change the name of the file,
when i
move thru the file name with left and right arrow keys, first what i
hear is
"unselected". So it looks like that whole file name is selected and if i
move with the arrows it becomes unselected.
4. When i'm in the excel 2003 and when i scroll thru the data sheet
with and
arrow keys, nvda is reading their contents but if i try to edit the
sheet
with f2 and copy its content, nvda doesn't anounce anything. The same
is if
i scroll thru the data sheet with tab or shift tab keys, nvda stays
quiet.
Also, if the cell has written comment, nvda doesn't anounce it at all,
but
the other screen reader can identify it. Ok that could be the issue with
MSAA but anyway, very interesting behaviour, because if i'm correct that
worked before and i could edit the cells and read what's inside without
problems.
I'm attaching my log file if it could help.
Regards
mario
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Hi,SayAll should move the cursor as it reads in edit controls, and richEdit controls. So this does include Notepad.
In fact on my system it works fine. What speech synthesizer are you using? perhaps it is not giving back the correct indexing info to NVDA.
Mick Matěj Plch wrote:
Yes, that.s true. I have one issue to solve. When I read text in the notepad (via insert + down arrow), the cursor does not move down with the text. It means, that when I stop reading, cursor is still on the top of the text. So I must find the position via ctrl + f (find dialog). For example in MS Word there are no problems with it. I think, that this problem is only in rich edit text fields. I hope, that this issue will be fixed soon. Thanks a lot. Best regards Matěj Plch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx> To: "NVDA mailing list" <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvdaHey all. I have a few very interesting observations with the latest 2300 snapshot and i saw them in the earlier snapshots so i'd like to check if the rest of the people have the same issues, or if it could be fixed somehow, or something is wrong with my system.1. When i use miranda messenger, if i focus to the output window with allwritten and incoming messages, if i scroll with and arrow keys to read the messages, when ever the message is read, after that nvda starts to deselect all the text from the window and it starts to read its content from top to bottom of the window. Does anyone has a clew what's going on? 2. I have ms office 2003 sp3, and if i read the text in ms word and i stopthe cursor with ctrl key, the cursor doesn't stop on the position where istopped it, instead the cursor is somewhere on the beginning of the currentpage of the document, and sometimes even on the previous page, so i can'tfind out where i stopped the reading of the document. Is there the way how to solve this problem or does anyone has a clew what could cause this kind of behaviour? I'm also looking for a solution of putting the bookmark or placemarker or something in the document so that i can start reading where i stopped last time if the document is closed in the mean time. 3. If i'm in the windows explorer or my computer, and for exampel i want to rename the file name, if i press f2 to change the name of the file, when i move thru the file name with left and right arrow keys, first what i hear is "unselected". So it looks like that whole file name is selected and if i move with the arrows it becomes unselected. 4. When i'm in the excel 2003 and when i scroll thru the data sheet with andarrow keys, nvda is reading their contents but if i try to edit the sheetwith f2 and copy its content, nvda doesn't anounce anything. The same is if i scroll thru the data sheet with tab or shift tab keys, nvda stays quiet. Also, if the cell has written comment, nvda doesn't anounce it at all, but the other screen reader can identify it. Ok that could be the issue with MSAA but anyway, very interesting behaviour, because if i'm correct that worked before and i could edit the cells and read what's inside without problems. I'm attaching my log file if it could help. Regards mario __________ Informace od NOD32 3300 (20080725) __________ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.czTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
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