[nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda

I wouldn't assume the behavior is limited to Service Pack 3. On my version of Word, 2003, which I just about never use and have not updated, when I stop reading, the cursor appears to always stop at the beginning of the sentence being read. Also, read current line reads the sentence, not the line. 

Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Subject: [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda
Hey Mick, I'll do what's necesary, as much as i can just that you solve out the problem :)) Btw if you have office 2003 you can update freely on sp3 its downloadable from MS download center. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Curran" <michaeldamiencurran@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Subject: [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda



Hi,
I have Office 2003, but not 2003 sp3. In Word 2003 the cursor moves ok for me. If I read through a document and press control, the cursor ends up where I left off. At least, on the line or sentence where I left off anyway. 

This definitely does not work for you using the built-in eSpeak?
I might get you to read a document in MS Word and then stop with control and send me your NVDA log file. But not yet, as I have to double check and possibly update some debugging info in regards to that feature.
I'll let you know further detail soon. I would like to clear up this bug if I can. 

Mick





Mario Percinic wrote:

Mick or someone else, do you have any other clews why nvda behaves
strange with ms office and with errors which i described earlier?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Curran"
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Subject: [nvda] Re: A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda



Hi,

SayAll should move the cursor as it reads in edit controls, and
richEdit controls. So this does include Notepad.

In fact on my system it works fine. What speech synthesizer are you
using? perhaps it is not giving back the correct indexing info to NVDA.

Mick


Matěj Plch wrote:

Yes, that.s true.
I have one issue to solve.
When I read text in the notepad (via insert + down arrow), the cursor
does not move down with the text. It means, that when I stop reading,
cursor is still on the top of the text. So I must find the position via 
ctrl + f (find dialog). For example in MS Word there are no problems
with it. I think, that this problem is only in rich edit text fields.
I hope, that this issue will be fixed soon.
Thanks a lot.
Best regards
Matěj Plch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic"
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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] A few quite interesting behaviours with nvda



Hey all.
I have a few very interesting observations with the latest 2300
snapshot and
i saw them in the earlier snapshots so i'd like to check if the rest
of the
people have the same issues, or if it could be fixed somehow, or
something
is wrong with my system.
1. When i use miranda messenger, if i focus to the output window
with all
written and incoming messages, if i scroll with and arrow keys to read 
the
messages, when ever the message is read, after that nvda starts to
deselect
all the text from the window and it starts to read its content from
top to
bottom of the window. Does anyone has a clew what's going on?
2. I have ms office 2003 sp3, and if i read the text in ms word and i
stop
the cursor with ctrl key, the cursor doesn't stop on the position
where i
stopped it, instead the cursor is somewhere on the beginning of the
current
page of the document, and sometimes even on the previous page, so i
can't
find out where i stopped the reading of the document. Is there the way 
how
to solve this problem or does anyone has a clew what could cause this
kind
of behaviour? I'm also looking for a solution of putting the
bookmark or
placemarker or something in the document so that i can start reading
where i
stopped last time if the document is closed in the mean time.
3. If i'm in the windows explorer or my computer, and for exampel i
want to
rename the file name, if i press f2 to change the name of the file,
when i
move thru the file name with left and right arrow keys, first what i
hear is
"unselected". So it looks like that whole file name is selected and
if i
move with the arrows it becomes unselected.
4. When i'm in the excel 2003 and when i scroll thru the data sheet
with and
arrow keys, nvda is reading their contents but if i try to edit the
sheet
with f2 and copy its content, nvda doesn't anounce anything. The same
is if
i scroll thru the data sheet with tab or shift tab keys, nvda stays
quiet.
Also, if the cell has written comment, nvda doesn't anounce it at all, 
but
the other screen reader can identify it. Ok that could be the issue
with
MSAA but anyway, very interesting behaviour, because if i'm correct
that
worked before and i could edit the cells and read what's inside without 
problems.
I'm attaching my log file if it could help.
Regards
mario



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