I agree, the Swiss approach looks very interesting. It is hard to know these days who you are really voting for. But I really don't see the current two major parties wanting to relent on the power, more so Abbott. Gillard might but I think it will be only to stay in power. It will take a traumatic shift for both parties I would think. NSW Labor is a shambles I'm surprised they're still in power. It won't matter what show pony they put up they along with their Queensland counterparts will be gone at the next state elections. Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Friday, 27 August 2010 08:04 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Elections and Rugby That Swiss approach sounds very sensible. A truly national government which represents the interests of all, not just the ones the political parties feel obliged to support, because of favours or back-room political deals. If it can work in South Australia, why not Canberra? It certainly takes away the power of those "faceless men" who really control much of politics behind the scenes. You only have to look at the NSW Labor Party to see the damage they can do. It also puts a spoke in the wheels of those power-drunk, posturing Independents. They should not be able to call the shots, considering the level of support they have. Abbott, for all his faults, is probably right to stand back, not saying too much. Another election, soon or in the near future, is in his mind. We don't need that though. Do the two leaders and their colleagues have the vision and the will to buck party tradition and loyalties and work as a true partnership?? It's worth a try. Paul. On 27/08/2010, at 6:52 AM, judith stella wrote: I really like the the Swiss arrangement. We bang on about democracy but a two party system where people have to vote with the party ... how democratic is that?? We don't seem to be mature enough to manage more of a consensus approach. I really like that power will not be totally in the hands of one party and that other views will have to be taken into account. You may have read that in South Australia when there was a hung state parliament a few years ago, the labour premier Mike Rann appointed coalition members as ministers. After the next election when Rann was returned with a majority, he re-appointed the coalition ministers. Even calling it a hung parliament is perjorative - its actually much more democratic!! And bring on the Greens in the senate - they may be a single interest party but its their single interest that we really need right now imho. Judith _____ From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of G C Sent: Friday, 27 August 2010 4:56 AM To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Elections and Rugby From the SMH System is cuckoo - ask the Swiss For the 40 years I lived in Australia I have wondered why we call the Westminster system democracy. I learnt at school that democracy meant rule by the people, not half the people. If the same election result had happened in Switzerland, Labor would put up half the ministers and the Coalition the other half. The prime minister would be elected by the ministers and rotated every year, with no special powers except chairing the meetings and representing the nation. Running a country democratically is not a game in which one side is the winner for three years. All sides have a right to be involved in the executive. It puts responsibility on all the parties. Henty Schneebeli Moree We moved to Australia from Switzerland in 1988. The longer I live here, the more I admire my native country for its unity, despite its variety in language, geography and religion. Our government consists of seven ministers from five political parties; the bigger parties hold more seats than the smaller ones. And the consensus works. Eva Wicki Mosman PLEASE READ THESE CONDITIONS: The colour that you see on screen can in no way be guaranteed. As you have not seen a hard copy proof you must accept that the colours you see on your screen will never match 100% what your final product will be. Colour variation occurs from screen to screen and from screen to print Regards Paul McGuiness prepress@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------ Lismore City Printery ------------------------------------ 201 Union Street Lismore NSW 2480 ------------------------------------ Tel. 02 6621 5371 Fax. 02 6622 1296 ------------------------------------ www.cityprint.com.au