30" at ISO 64 and f/1.4 sounds just about right. I was using @ISO 50 and f/11. I know there is no chance in hell that film can compete with current dSLRs. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 12 / 10 04:57 PST On Dec 9, 2010, at 0623 , Eric Welch wrote: > The difference is film has no chance competing with a D700 at high ISO. I > believe that would be 13 seconds. I remember shooting Northern Lights in > Canada back in the early 80s on Kodachrome 64 and a Pentax LX and 50mm 1.4. I > think the exposure - picked by the camera reading off the film (the LX was > one of the first to read ambient exposures reflected off film) - was about 30 > seconds. > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Koichi Mac wrote: > >> Um…that's for Windows, isn't it? Let me see if I can check the >> metadata. Got it, here is PNG. So that's 13 seconds? or 1/13 second? - >> much shorter than I anticipated anyway. I have a shot of northern lights / >> aurora, spent about 8 minutes with film and wouldn't show up spectacularly >> like that, suffering a massive reciprocity failure. >> >> <Screen shot 2010-12-08 at 11.46.01 .png> >> >> On Nov 30, 2010, at 2016 , John Osthus wrote: >> >>> I believe I did not strip it out of the EXIF. >>> >>> Do you have Opanda? >>> >>> http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/ >>> >>> Nice to have. A right click leads you to all of the data. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Koichi Mac [mailto:nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx] >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:56 PM >>> To: John Osthus >>> Cc: Nikon F4 >>> Subject: Re: Meteors >>> >>> Thanks for the forward. Shows really nice. Mind to share data? >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2010, at 1945 , John Osthus wrote: >>> >>>> From: John Osthus [mailto:josthus@xxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:53 PM >>>> To: 'Eric Welch' >>>> Subject: FW: Meteors >>>> >>>> Hi Eric >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the Audio help. >>>> >>>> If you look at this at 100 percent you can see 4 meteors, faintly. All >>> near the center of the screen sort of. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> JO >>>> >>>> From: John Osthus [mailto:josthus@xxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:46 PM >>>> To: 'jaypax@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >>>> Subject: Meteors >>>> >>>> Jay, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your interest. >>>> >>>> This is a low-rez version of a NEF I shot with the D700. >>>> >>>> There are a couple of faint trails near the milky way near the center of >>> the image, and a couple of smaller traces on the left center. You have to >>> enlarge to 100 percent to see them well. >>>> >>>> Not show stoppers when it comes to meteors - these were accidents while I >>> was shooting the milky way hoping for a meteor. I didn't see any of these >>> the camera caught. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> John >>>> <_DEF0746.jpg>