No. It was free; the Genius Bar always is. And they don't push to sell you anything. I guess they could have promoted a new HD, memory or some such, but they ran their test sequence and proclaimed all systems go. I had upgraded the HD myself about two years ago, so I suspected it may have been corrupted but they said it was fine. I took out the original Hitachi and installed a bigger Seagate. They implied [they can't recommend] that if I made another HD substitution I might wish to consider any 5400 rpm Seagate or Hitachi drives. ________________________________ From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 12:35:17 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Did it cost you very much? ________________________________ From:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:18 AM To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Yes, they took it in the back room and wiped the hard drive and reinstalled the OS. I had a recent backup at home. ________________________________ From:Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 10:12:20 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble So were they able to fix it at the Apple Store? ________________________________ From:Dave Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 9:31 PM To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble No, but they did at the Apple Store. It didn't work. Neither did holding the N key to boot from their network. ________________________________ From:Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> To: Nikon F4 < nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:50:43 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Well I see your problem is solved now which is good to know. But, did you hold <option> during FW boot? That will show you the choice of drive you want to boot. Corrupt boot sector of internal drive shouldn't deactivate this capability. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood , WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 20 18:50 PST On Nov 20, 2010, at 0517 , Dave wrote: > Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I can't >boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore either, because >it won't boot to the system disk either. > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac OS >update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes even >for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any problem. > > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is so, >and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either problem with >your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt updated files on your >HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your HD is probably OK. And if >you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> <More Info> <Hardware> ><Diagnostics> >will show the state at the time of boot up. > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > > > I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for morning. > > Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD that I >could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this PC is >slow >and fidgety. > > > > From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight a >crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to getting >it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the Genius Bar >tonight >and it won't be so bad. > > > > From: Dave > > Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble > > > > I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in Safari >and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held the power >button down, and it shut off. > > > > > Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little >thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long startup >sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead of booting. If >I >hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, the same thing happens. >I >inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and it just ate that; it won't >eject >no matter what, and there's no paper clip hole. > > > > > Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple of >times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire backup HD >but >it's no help. > > > > This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the latest >big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, however. > > > > Any ideas, gang? > > > > Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!