Did it cost you very much? ________________________________ From: nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:18 AM To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Yes, they took it in the back room and wiped the hard drive and reinstalled the OS. I had a recent backup at home. ________________________________ From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 10:12:20 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble So were they able to fix it at the Apple Store? ________________________________ From: Dave Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 9:31 PM To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble No, but they did at the Apple Store. It didn't work. Neither did holding the N key to boot from their network. ________________________________ From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:50:43 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Well I see your problem is solved now which is good to know. But, did you hold <option> during FW boot? That will show you the choice of drive you want to boot. Corrupt boot sector of internal drive shouldn't deactivate this capability. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 20 18:50 PST On Nov 20, 2010, at 0517 , Dave wrote: > Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I can't boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore either, because it won't boot to the system disk either. > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac OS update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes even for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any problem. > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is so, and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either problem with your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt updated files on your HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your HD is probably OK. And if you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> <More Info> <Hardware> <Diagnostics> will show the state at the time of boot up. > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > > > I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for morning. > > Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD that I could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this PC is slow and fidgety. > > > > From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight a crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to getting it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the Genius Bar tonight and it won't be so bad. > > > > From: Dave > > Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble > > > > I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in Safari and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held the power button down, and it shut off. > > > > Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long startup sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead of booting. If I hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, the same thing happens. I inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and it just ate that; it won't eject no matter what, and there's no paper clip hole. > > > > Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple of times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire backup HD but it's no help. > > > > This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the latest big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, however. > > > > Any ideas, gang? > > > > Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!