They kept trying the N-boot and finally it connected to their network. They didn't know why it failed at first, but they suspected some loose network ports at their work table. They took the laptop in the back room and got it booted. ________________________________ From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 2:55:00 AM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Really…your MB thought there was no HD? How did they start your MB then? You said network option wasn't available either. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 20 23:55 PST On Nov 20, 2010, at 1931 , Dave wrote: > No, but they did at the Apple Store. It didn't work. Neither did holding the > N >key to boot from their network. > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:50:43 PM > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > Well I see your problem is solved now which is good to know. > > But, did you hold <option> during FW boot? That will show you the choice >of drive you want to boot. Corrupt boot sector of internal drive shouldn't >deactivate this capability. > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 0517 , Dave wrote: > > > Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I > > can't >boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore either, because >it won't boot to the system disk either. > > > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac OS >update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes even >for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any problem. > > > > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is > > so, >and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either problem with >your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt updated files on your >HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your HD is probably OK. And if >you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> <More Info> <Hardware> ><Diagnostics> >will show the state at the time of boot up. > > > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > > > > > I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for > > > morning. > > > > Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD that > > > I >could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this PC is >slow >and fidgety. > > > > > > From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > > > I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight a >crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to getting >it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the Genius Bar >tonight >and it won't be so bad. > > > > > > From: Dave > > > Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble > > > > > > I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in > > > Safari >and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held the power >button down, and it shut off. > > > > > > > Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little >thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long startup >sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead of booting. If >I >hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, the same thing happens. >I >inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and it just ate that; it won't >eject >no matter what, and there's no paper clip hole. > > > > > > > Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple > > > of >times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire backup HD >but >it's no help. > > > > > > This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the > > > latest >big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, however. > > > > > > Any ideas, gang? > > > > > > Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!