Then I think you are thinking wrong. :-> Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 20 19:25 PST On Nov 20, 2010, at 1917 , Bill O'Connell wrote: > No type, cult > > -----Original Message----- > From: nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Koichi Mac > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:02 PM > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > Typo? Culture store?? > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 1328 , Bill O'Connell wrote: > >> Did you go to the cult store and get it fixed? >> >> From: nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Dave >> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:18 AM >> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble >> >> Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I > can't boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore either, > because it won't boot to the system disk either. >> >> From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> >> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM >> Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble >> >> I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac > OS update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes > even for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any > problem. >> >> Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is > so, and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either > problem with your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt > updated files on your HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your HD > is probably OK. And if you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> <More > Info> <Hardware> <Diagnostics> will show the state at the time of boot up. >> >> On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: >> >>> I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for > morning. >>> Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD > that I could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this > PC is slow and fidgety. >>> >>> From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> >>> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM >>> Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble >>> >>> I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight > a crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to > getting it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the Genius > Bar tonight and it won't be so bad. >>> >>> From: Dave >>> Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM >>> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble >>> >>> I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in > Safari and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held the > power button down, and it shut off. >>> >>> Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little > thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long startup > sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead of booting. > If I hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, the same thing > happens. I inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and it just ate that; > it won't eject no matter what, and there's no paper clip hole. >>> >>> Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple > of times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire backup > HD but it's no help. >>> >>> This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the > latest big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, > however. >>> >>> Any ideas, gang? >>> >>> Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!