[ncolug] Re: libc6 during the install

  • From: "Michael K." <charon79m@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:15:58 -0500

Yeah, I get that. What I mean, is why would I build only to my hardware. As was talked about elsewhere, one of the beauties of linux is that when you change platforms you don't need to reload.


On that same line, why would you want to build such a slim ammount of hardware support. I just don't understand. The decent reason I've heard as a reason for building kernels is to get the most recent kernel instead of letting your distro package it for you. Other than that, what do I get.

Some say that performance is gained... from everything I've read on this I disagree. Some say security. Again, if they're adding hadware they've got physical access... so they own the machine. I am just looking for some logical reason to limit what hardware my machine supports.

YES, I usnderstand the need of needing to compile my own kernel modules. I'm the proud user of a laptop with an AIT video card, and for a long time I needed to compile my own kernel module. I understand the requirements of adding support for new hardware.

Mike K.

Chuck Stickelman wrote:
Michael K. wrote:
I just don't see the advantage of pearing down the modules like hat. What do I gain by not having usb-printing support there?
Mike K.

What "there"?  When you plug a USB printer into your laptop your kernel
loads a module. If I had the module my laptop would do the same thing. Heck, I could load the EXACT same kernel you have if I wanted to.

At some point each of us have to choose which modules we want and which
we don't want.  What I was trying to say is that you can't have every
module. You can always find something missing, or buy something new. (As an example I recently Wooted a USB TV tuner. Now I can guarantee
that none of my Linux boxes have the needed module(s) installed.  What
should I do?  Install a new Distribution from scratch!?)

How many times have you or Larry or someone else talked about loading
one Distribution to find the system lacked support for a given device,
then load a different Distribution to find the first device was
supported, but now something else wasn't supported?

I remember Larry going through that painful process for quite some
time.  What Mike B. and I tried to get across to everyone was that it
was totally unneeded.  Load the Distribution you want and then build any
missing modules.

Some time ago I started building my own kernels.  When I did that I
built only the modules for the specific target system's hardware.

Sure, it would have been nice to have pre-built the USB printer
modules...  I just never thought about it since I don't own any.

Nothing gained, except a bit of time doing the compilation/building of
the kernel-package.

Chuck




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