[ncolug] Re: Nework and Destop issues with Ubuntu!

A Microtik router (free download) using a standard PIII and standard 100TX
NICs will blow away almost any low end proprietary hardware firewall.
-Monowall too

My point was, these "hardware" firewalls are just small under powered
computers running firewall SOFTWARE on an OS. Of course having a separate box
to handle routing and security is a good idea, especially if you have a LAN. I
recommend using a DMZ with an IDS too.

I also know first hand how incapable and under powered Linksys routers are
when you are doing more than connecting a few users to the Internet. I'll have
to tell you sometime.
My experience = If you want a router that can handle more, save up your money
or build your own.  

--
DavidRakestraw 

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From: larry <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:16:42 -0400
Subject: [ncolug] Re: Nework and Destop issues with Ubuntu!

> "How they work" isn't an issue, what makes a hardware firewall 
> superior is:
> 
> the optimization/specialization of the code used
> the far superior user interface
> the modularity that permits it to be used not just as a firewall,
>  but as a VPN endpoint, etc. the superior value when time to 
> configure is taken into account
> 
> This is pretty much the same argument as the software vs hardware 
> RAID one - you will always find people who consider software RAID 
> "good enough," but after you have tried both, there is no going back...
> 
> David Rakestraw wrote:
> 
> >Interesting.
> >I always thought that "Hardware" firewalls had an OS and firewall software.
> >How do they work?
> >
> >David Rakestraw
> >
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> >From: larry <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:00:35 -0400
> >Subject: [ncolug] Re: Nework and Destop issues with Ubuntu!
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Software firewalls are ineffective, and do not provide the options 
> >>that hardware firewalls do. Even a $60 Linksys is more effective and 
> >>easier to configure than any software firewall.
> >>
> >>David Fierbaugh wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Why not use a firewall on the computer itself? Why add another component?
> >>>
> >>>On Tuesday 30 May 2006 20:30, larry wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>As usual, rather than solve your problem, I would point out that the
> >>>>design is faulty:
> >>>>
> >>>>If you are connecting a computer directly to a DSL modem, you are
> >>>>exposing it to the Net directly.
> >>>>
> >>>>There should be a firewall between your computer and the DSL modem. It
> >>>>would have the added benefit of allowing you to static-address or still
> >>>>use DHCP, if you like. (Not to mention the ability to share the
> >>>>connection between multiple computers...)
> >>>>
> >>>>Ken Allen wrote:
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>I talked with Chuck with some of the problems that I was have, one was
> >>>>>in APCI.  Disabling it in the bios corrected this issue, but
> >>>>>networking problem continues and now I have a desktop problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Problems:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No Network
> >>>>>No Desktop
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Symptoms:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Network:    eth0 not getting an I.P. from ADSL modem
> >>>>>Desktop:    Login comes up, but once use name and password entered, no
> >>>>>desktop comes up, just the brown screen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Testing:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Network:    Connected ADSL modem to my personal laptop and was on the
> >>>>>internet running Windows/Ubuntu 5.10
> >>>>>Network:    Tried Live CD to see if problems go away, same results.
> >>>>>Network:    Tried doing a reload and I get no I.P. Address with the
> >>>>>DHCP with install disk
> >>>>>Network    Put in a new network card, both the Live and Install CD see
> >>>>>both network cards and I selected eth1, but still am not getting I.P.
> >>>>>Address
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Desktop:    On the Desktop, removed GDM, went to apts cache and did a
> >>>>>dpkg on the gdm deb file and reinstall GDM, still no desktop
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Does anyone have any ideas? Do I possibly have a hard drive issue? I
> >>>>>get to a prompt that allowed fsck and had 1.1% contiguous.  I have
> >>>>>even tried Knoppix and I don't get a good I.P. Address to get to the
> >>>>>internet and that is with both network cards.  Later when booting with
> >>>>>Knoppix can't get USB going, but Ubuntu can.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Totally lost and confused!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ken Allen
> >>>>>KC8TDW
> >>>>>A.E.C. Richland County Skywarn
> >>>>>http://rcskywarn.kosinet.com/
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
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