[ncolug] Re: I am not a programmer!

I've danced around this very thing for some time now...  I remember
before AJAX people were telling me this could not be done.  Today I am
SURE it CAN be done, I just don't have the skills...

I sure would like to hear if anyone else has some ideas...

Chuck

On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 12:00 -0400, Kory Pounds wrote: 
> I myself have not done ANYTHING complicated with HTML, Javascript or
> whatever. My personal website is just simple text, links to other
> pages/files and a graphic or two, all centered. I would love to get
> into web design but I still have yet to jump in.
> 
> Kory
> 
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Chuck Stickelman
> <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Maybe this should/could be done using a single HTML file.  I know that
> > JavaScript could be used to save state information (like the path/name
> > of a data file) as Coockies, and can perform simple file operations.
> >
> > I think I can find SVGs of the simple graphics elements, could those be
> > stored in an HTML file too?  HTML as container seems weird to me...
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 11:44 -0400, Kory Pounds wrote:
> >> I think I see what  you are getting at, but I am not sure of the best
> >> way to go about it.
> >>
> >> What do you other LUG-nuts have to say about Chuck's request?
> >>
> >> Kory
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Chuck Stickelman
> >> <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > What I am looking for is a single "document" that can be used to
> >> > edit/display/print information in tabular format.  The data will be 1
> >> > row per person with columns for Name, and each of 18 work locations.
> >> > The values for each of the data cells will show the training level of
> >> > that employee at that location.  Ideally, I'd like to color-code those
> >> > levels and co-ordinate the colors with those used in racing...
> >> >
> >> > I DO NOT want an executable or anything anyone has to "install".  I also
> >> > want to make sure that the end-user can see only the data and a minimal
> >> > set of controls, they also should not be able change anything but the
> >> > data.
> >> >
> >> > Chuck
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 11:14 -0400, Kory Pounds wrote:
> >> >> Chuck,
> >> >>
> >> >> PACLE was real simple. I used the final project in my Visual Basic
> >> >> class at NCTC (which I had saved) as the foundation for the
> >> >> programming/GUI interface/operations for the PACLE CD project.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is real simple. A single PDF was made from each mail piece (with
> >> >> the logo merged in - psmergetif, remember? - , just like it would look
> >> >> after it rolls off our presses). Each PDF had a unique name (eight
> >> >> digit starting at 00000001.pdf I believe). There was a corresponding
> >> >> csv file created where each line contained the info for each lawyer,
> >> >> including his corresponding PDF file name. When someone at PACLE ran
> >> >> the program it would load up the ID-sorted csv file by default (I
> >> >> believe. there was also the Last Name-sorted csv version which they
> >> >> could switch to in the GUI program). From the drop-down box, they
> >> >> could choose their lawyer, his info would be displayed in the
> >> >> different text boxes and the program would check to see if the CD
> >> >> currently in the drive matched the CD that its PDF would be on. If the
> >> >> right CD wasn't in there, then it would prompt the user to insert the
> >> >> correct one. After doing so, it would display the PDF in the main
> >> >> window below.
> >> >>
> >> >> A regular run, (Preliminary or Final) produced four CD's. The
> >> >> Auxiliary run was smaller and just made one CD. I am sure there was a
> >> >> better way of programming an application for something like this, but
> >> >> it worked enough for that time and I already had the knowledge and the
> >> >> actually VB programming to write it up.
> >> >>
> >> >> So what type of application are you looking for compared to this?
> >> >>
> >> >> Kory
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Chuck Stickelman
> >> >> <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 10:10 -0400, Kory Pounds wrote:
> >> >> >> Chuck,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Exactly what kind of PDF work (needed for your ideas here) from MSC
> >> >> >> are you referring to here? Thanks.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Pennsylvania attorneys CD project.  Remember where we had a PDF 
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > that used XFDF files for the variable data.  What I'm trying to find 
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > something that will work like that but also be able to save the data 
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > disk as a completed PDF and/or a user-selectable file (could be text 
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > formatted like XFDFs).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I like the idea of the solution being based on PDF since everyone has
> >> >> > Acrobat Reader...  and it's a nice container for this sort of thing...
> >> >> > But all of my research suggests that Adobe has intentionally made this
> >> >> > difficult.  If there's a better solution, then I'm willing to 
> >> >> > explore...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chuck
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Kory "The Perl Guru" Pounds
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Chuck Stickelman
> >> >> >> <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >> > All,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have a need and I think it's going to end up requiring some
> >> >> >> > programming.  I am working on a project for a Grad School class in
> >> >> >> > Structured On-The-Job Training (S-OJT).  For this project I am to
> >> >> >> > develop a S-OJT module for a real business.  The business is the
> >> >> >> > Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course.  There is a chance that this project 
> >> >> >> > could
> >> >> >> > turn into something "real" in the future, so I'd like to make my
> >> >> >> > proposal as slick as possible.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I would like a way to track individual employee training.  For 
> >> >> >> > each work
> >> >> >> > location, I want the manager to be able to select the level of the
> >> >> >> > employee's competency.  I could use terms common to S_OJT for the 
> >> >> >> > levels
> >> >> >> > (Novice, Specialist, Experienced Specialist, Expert, Master).  
> >> >> >> > But, I
> >> >> >> > would like to customize this to fit the track's motif.  One idea 
> >> >> >> > I've
> >> >> >> > had is to use racing flag colors to indicate the level of training.
> >> >> >> > (The Checkered flag would = Mastery!)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My dream for this would be a PDF Form where we could select the 
> >> >> >> > flag
> >> >> >> > color for each work location & person (a nicely colored table...). 
> >> >> >> >  Once
> >> >> >> > the manager edited employee competencies, he could Print/Save the
> >> >> >> > changes.  (Kory, I'm thinking PDF/XFDF kinds of stuff you did for 
> >> >> >> > me at
> >> >> >> > MSC... Can a PDF form write an XFDF file to a local hard drive?)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thoughts!?
> >> >> >> > Chuck
> >


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