[nasional_list] Re: [ppiindia] Re: Deretan Nabi menurut agama-agama langit (samawi)
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- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:08:42 +0700
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Many of the fundamental beliefs of Christianity which have been for many
centuries taken on blind faith (those which differ from the beliefs of Muslims)
are now beginning to be challenged by some of the foremost scholars and
religious leaders of Christianity today.
An example of this can be found in the British newspaper the "Daily News"
25/6/84 under the heading "Shock survey of Anglican Bishops" We read that a
British television pole of 31 of the 39 Anglican Bishops in England found 19 to
believe that it is not necessary for Christians to believe that Jesus (pbuh) is
God, but only "His supreme agent" (his messenger) as taught by Muslims for 1400
years now and testified to by John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they
might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you hast sent." These
are not ignorant men, nor are they Muslims. They are eminent Christian scholars
who have dedicated their lives to their religious studies, and the study of the
Bible and the various discrepancies to be found therein. It is the scientific
and logical research of these men into the Bible and other ancient works of the
Christian society (in the light of modern knowledge) which is driving them ever
closer to the beliefs of the Muslims with eve
ry passing day. By Christian standards, these people have everything to lose
and nothing to gain by such statements. It is very easy to casually brush off
the lifelong study of some of the most eminent scholars of Christendom and
label them men of ignorance and proudly claim to be more knowledgeable than
them without bothering to study their findings. It is much harder to take the
time to study the evidence that drove them to this conclusion. In this book we
have presented extensive historical and scriptural evidence in both the Bible
and the Christian writings of the first six centuries C.E. which drove these
men to their conclusions.
Some people have been commanded to believe blindly in certain matters and never
ask questions. Others will insist on giving every single verse of the Bible
which contradicts their personal beliefs an "abstract" meaning. When in doubt
they say "what the author wrote is not what he meant" and then they proceed to
give you their personal interpretation totally side-stepping the obvious
meaning of the verses in front of them. No matter how much evidence is
presented they are perfectly willing to explain it all away with abstract
meanings. On many occasions they don't even bother to analyze their own
abstract meanings to see if logic, or the Bible, support them. That is their
choice, our job is only to show them the evidence. It is up to them to accept
or reject it. "Say: O people of the Scripture! Stress not in your religion
other than the truth, and follow not the vain desires of folk who erred of old
and led many astray and diverged from the straight path" Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):
77.
When Jesus (pbuh) was among his people, preaching the command of God, he was
abused, ridiculed and denigrated. All manner of accusations and propaganda were
leveled against him. He was called a liar, a wicked physician, a offspring of
adultery, and many other allegations in an effort to dissuade his people from
following him. The enemies of God were so bold in their campaign of slander
against him that they even went so far as to fabricate lies and slanderous
atrocities about his childhood. However, this was to be expected. Indeed, this
was the lot of all of the prophets of God since the beginning of time.
In a similar manner, to this day when Islam and Muslims are portrayed in the
Western media it is only under the headings of terrorism, extremism, and
fundamentalism. Seldom, if ever, is the other side of the story given equal, if
any, time. Those who fight so continuously to spread such misconceptions
realized that with enough continuous bombardment of such concepts, the masses
will eventually come to accept them as "known fact."
As a result of this, when a Muslim quotes from the Qur'an, he is usually
perceived as propagating terrorism and heathenistic ungodly violence or similar
matters and no one is willing to listen to him. If he quotes from the studies
of Muslims, even Christians who have converted to Islam, his words are
considered biased and worthless. Even if eminent Christian scholars, unbiased
scientists, and the Bible itself are quoted, the Christian scholars are labeled
"liberals," and thus unworthy, the scientists as mistaken, and the Biblical
verses as not meaning what they say but rather having abstract meanings.
"I shall turn away from my signs those who are arrogant in the earth
unjustifiably, and if they see all the signs (in creation) they believe them
not, and if they see the path of righteousness they do not take it as (their)
path, and if they see the path of misguidance they take it as (their) path.
That is because they deny our signs and are used to disregarding them" The
Qur'an, Al-Aaraf(7):146.
"They are not all alike. Of the people of the book are a portion whom stand
(for that which is right), who recite the revelations of Allah throughout the
night while prostrate (before Him)" The Qur'an, A'al-Umran(3):113.
"And Lo! Of the people of the Scripture are those who believe in Allah and that
which was sent down to you and that which was sent down to them, humbling
themselves before Allah. They purchase not a trifling gain at the price of the
revelations of Allah. Verily, their reward is with their Lord, and Lo! Allah is
swift to take account." The Qur'an, A'al-Umran(3):199.
The choice of the present four Gospels (including the writings of St. Paul who
is credited with single-handedly writing the majority of the books of the New
Testament) was imposed in the conference of Nicea 325 AD under the auspices of
the Pagan Emperor Constantine for political reasons. Literally hundreds of
gospels and religious writings were considered "Apocrypha" (which actually
means "hidden from the people") and destroyed. Some of these were written by
disciples of Jesus (pbuh), and not disciples of disciples who had never met
Jesus (pbuh), such as Paul. If they were not more authentic than the current
selection then they were at least of equal authenticity. Some of these are
still available, such as the "Gospel of Barnabas" which agrees with the Qur'an
and even mention Muhammad (pbuh) by name. Modern discoveries such as the
discovery of the dead sea scrolls (Qumran scrolls) have also confirmed the
claims of the Qur'an (such as their claim that no nail shall touch the M
essiah). The most ancient copies of the Greek Gospels available today date
fully three to four centuries after the departure of Jesus(pbuh). The Dead sea
scrolls, coincide historically with the time of John the Baptist. They were
quickly dated from the 2nd century BC through the 1st century AD by the script
in which they were written and by archaeological investigations of the
settlement near the Qumran caves. They were discovered alongside the most
ancient copy of the Old Testament available today.
In an effort to defend the teachings of the current Greek gospels, Mr. F.F.
Bruce has the following to say in his book "The New Testament documents. Are
they reliable?": "It is worth mentioning here that striking affinities of
thought and language have been recognized between the Gospel and the Qumran
texts. These affinities must not be exaggerated; the Qumran literature comes no
where near presenting us with such a figure as the Jesus of this Gospel (John)"
(emphasis added).
Any Christian scholar of Christian history will readily confirm that after the
famous council of Nicea (325 AD), the church of St. Paul (The Roman Catholic
Church) selected out of the over three hundred Gospels in their possession the
four that most closely conformed to their doctrines. All others, including the
Gospel of Barnabas, were ordered completely destroyed. They also ruled that all
Gospels written in Hebrew were to be destroyed. An edict was issued that anyone
found in possession of an unauthorized Gospel would be put to death. Countless
numbers of Christians were then systematically killed as heretics and burned at
the stake if they maintained their belief in the divine Unity of God and did
not conform to the innovative teachings of Paul. It is well known that this
practice continued until at least the year 1616 AD.
Well then, how did the Gospel of Barnabas reach us? It is well known and
recorded that the Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as Canonical in the Churches
of Alexandria till 325 AD. Pope Damasus (304-384 AD.) issued a decree that the
Gospel of Barnabas should not be read. This decree was supported by Gelasus,
Bishop of Caesaria who died in 395 AD. Pope Demasus, however, did secure a
personal copy of the Gospel of Barnabas for himself in 383 AD. and placed it in
his private library. Many decrees make mention of the Gospel of Barnabas, such
as the decree of the Western churches in 382AD, Pope Innocent in 465A.D., the
Glasian Decree of 496A.D., Pope Hormisdas, and it is mentioned in the
Stichometry of Niceophorus. There are many others who made note of this Gospel
throughout history or obtained their own copies.
In 478AD, the fourth year of Emperor Zeno, the remains of Barnabas were
discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas
written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Borland Junii Tom II, pages 422 and
450. Antwerp 1698) The famous Vulgate Bible appears to have been based upon
this Gospel.
Among the early Christians was a man named Iranaeus (130-200 AD). Iranaeus was
among the followers of the teachings of the apostles and, like the first
Christians before him, a believer in the divine unity and not in the new
Pauline doctrines. Iranaeus dedicated his life to the liberation of the
Christians from the tyranny that was meted out to all those who did not accept
the Pauline doctrines. He bitterly criticized Paul for having injected the
doctrines of the pagan Romans and Platonic philosophy into the religion of
Jesus. He was witness during his lifetime to massive efforts to mute all
opposition to Paul's church through the murder of all who opposed him, such as
Pothinus, Bishop of Lyons. Iranaeus himself was finally murdered in 200AD for
his outspokenness against Paul and his church.
Iranaeus wrote extensively during his lifetime, and in his writings he quoted
extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas. In the sixteenth century AD. a close
friend of Pope Sextus (1589-1590) called Fra Marino, became extremely
interested in the writings of Iranaeus. One day he was invited to visit the
Pope and lunch with him. After eating with him, the Pope became drowsy and fell
asleep. Father Marino took to browsing through the various books and
manuscripts in the private library of Pope Sextus and happened upon an Italian
translation of the Gospel of Barnabas. Father Marino concealed it in his sleeve
and left the Vatican with it. This Gospel passed through many hands until it
reached the hands of "a person of great name and authority" in Amsterdam "who
during his lifetime, was often heard to put a high value on this piece." After
his death, it came into the possession of J.E. Cramer, Councilor of the King of
Prussia. In 1713, Cramer presented this Gospel to the famous conno
isseur of books, Prince Eugene of Savoy. In 1738, the library of the Prince,
including this Gospel was incorporated into the Hofbibliothek in Vienna where
it now rests.
Only the popularity of this copy of the Gospel of Barnabas saved it from the
fate of most other copies. Most copies of the Gospel of Barnabas had a tendency
of mysteriously disappearing into oblivion. This was the case with a Spanish
copy which mysteriously disappeared from the Collage Library in England around
the same time period. The Gospel of Barnabas was translated into English by Mr.
and Mrs. Ragg and published in the Clarindon Press in Oxford in 1907. In 1907,
Oxford Press published this work but mysteriously, all copies disappeared from
the market. Only two copies are known to have escaped. One copy is housed in
the Library of Congress in Washington, DC. The other is located in the British
museum. A new printing has been made off of these copies and this printing is
available today.
Some quotations from the Gospel of Barnabas:
In reply to a question by Philip, Prophet Jesus said: "God alone hath no equal.
He hath had no beginning, nor will he ever have a end, ... He hath no sons, nor
brethern, nor companions." (Gospel of Barnabas:17).
"... Verily ye have erred greatly, O Israelites, in calling me, a man, your
God. ... I confess before heaven, ... that I am a stranger to all that ye have
said; seeing that I am man, born of a mortal woman, subject to the judgment of
God, suffering the miseries of eating and sleeping, of cold and heat, like
other men,. Whereupon when God shall come to judge, my words like a sword shall
pierce each one (of them) that believe me to be more than man," (Gospel of
Barnabas: 93).
Regarding the apostle Barnabas, the Bible commands: "if he comes to you,
receive him." The Bible, Colossians 4:10
----- Original Message -----
From: RM Danardono HADINOTO
To: ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Deretan Nabi menurut agama-agama langit (samawi)
Dalam listing nabi nabi, tak ada beda dalam Injil. Listing nabi nabi
berhenti sebelum Yesus Kristus. Setelah itu tak ada nabi nabi lagi.
Injil apa yang beda beda ya? Mohon pencerahan?
Salam pencerahan
danardono
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