Oh come on George don't unsubscribe!
I don't always agree with gdamore, but I strongly support his return to
leadership of the project!
:)
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On Apr 8, 2016, at 9:11 PM, George Lambert <marchon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In response to Garrett becoming the benevolent dictator for life please
remove me from the list
George
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:13 PM Michael Powell <mwpowellhtx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If there's one thing I've learned in life and in my career, no one is
that irreplaceable. As others have stated, we can fork and run with it
apart from this if need be.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Garrett D'Amore <garrett@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Want to come back is a little too strong. Agree to come back because
nobody else* competent stepped up is more accurate.
I would actually be quite happy if the project carried on well without me.
I was hoping for this, because working on libnanomsg is not a labor of
love for me. Sadly it never happened.
Your response here is precisely why if I do take over it will only be as a
BDFL; I don't want to have to feel obliged to give these kinds of
unhelpful opinions the time of day.
- Garrett
* Yes I know you volunteered to take over. Nobody responded and I think
that part of the reason is that there is no evidence that you've done any
work on the core. You've created a small language binding but have not
actually touched the implementation of libnanomsg itself as far as anyone
else could see.
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On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Marc Balmer <marc@xxxxxxx> wrote:
1) you suggest a CoC
2) some people (me included) oppose
3) like an offended little child you step down
4) time passes
5) you want to came back, taking full control of everything, making all
decisions on your own, becoming a dicator.
Please refrain from doing so.
If you insist on doing so, that’s fine, as well. Easy enough to fork the
project, if really needed.
That said, if you do take the reins, then I suspect the most likely
future for nanomsg is to wither and die.
(That you use terms like BDFL, dictator for life, leadership, etc. imo
shows that you are a childish person that is not fit to lead a project.)
Am 08.04.2016 um 21:59 schrieb Garrett D'Amore <garrett@xxxxxxxxxx>:
The nanomsg project has been fairly leaderless since I stepped down back
in early January.
I’d hoped that there would be signs of someone else stepping up into the
maintainership role, but that has not occurred. Nobody is merging or
even reviewing contributions that I can tell.
I’ve therefore stated (as of a day or two ago) that I would be — albeit
reluctantly — willing to step back into the leadership. To be clear, if
I were to do this, it would be as a benevolent (hopefully) dictator for
life. That is, I am not interested in trying to lead or govern this
project by consensus. I will listen to opinions, and I may ask for
them, but at the end of the day if I’m lead, then my decisions would be
final, within legal limitations. (Notably legally I cannot relicense
the project — nor do I have any interest in doing so. So the freedom to
fork if you can’t stand my leadership would remain.)
The reason I’m wiling to do this is *solely* because I don’t want to see
nanomsg whither and die. And yet, that seems to be where its headed.
I’ve gotten some indications in support of me doing this in other fora,
and at least one formerly active contributor has indicated that he might
begin contributing again under my leadership.
However, I will not take control of the project by fiat. In particular,
Dirkjan Ochtman needs to make a decision as he is the last person with
commit privileges to the github repo. Technically I still have admin
privileges, but I’d rather not act without his consent.
I’ll also state this — if there is a clear majority of opinions opposed
to my taking this step, then I’ll decline to take the reins. I don’t
want to be an unwelcome leader — I don’t love this project *that* much.
So if you are violently opposed (or in favor) please speak up. Once I
*do* take the reins, I won’t be very likely to give them up again.
That said, if I do *not* take the reins, then I suspect the most likely
future for nanomsg is to whither and die.
To be clear, if you support my action, you *are* supporting a BDFL, so
be sure that a dictator is really what you want. You’ve been warned.
- Garrett
