[muglo] Re: defraggers
- From: Joseph Nolan <josephnolan1@xxxxxxx>
- To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:27:48 -0400
Hi all, this topic has been really interesting to me. Although I find
the info really helpful, I am basically a visual learner who would
benefit from having someone doing defragging in front of me and
explaining what it actually does. Perhaps, this would be a topic for
the next meeting? I would be glad to contribute one of my laptops for
the demonstration.
Best wishes,
Joe Nolan
On 28-Jul-07, at 2:36 PM, Roy Hanson wrote:
> you also may have too much stuff on the drive in question. My PC had
> this problem, I transferred some of the large programs and files to
> another drive, and the computer is faster. Still doing housecleaning.
>
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>> muglo Digest Fri, 27 Jul 2007 Volume: 07 Issue: 173
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>> In This Issue:
>> [muglo] defraggers?
>> [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> [muglo] Re: command+n
>> [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> [muglo] Pro, huh?
>> [muglo] permission to defrag?
>> [muglo] Re: permission to defrag?
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>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:23:19 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] defraggers?
>>
>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
>>
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>> From: Scott Strawbridge <scotts1@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:30:37 -0400
>>
>> Diskwarrior. I swear by it. (although not technically a defragger)
>> you should see definite speed improvements after running it
>> Also a cache cleanup with Onyx or cocktail usually helps
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>> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>
>>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
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>> From: Chris <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: command+n
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:38:38 -0400
>>
>> Also good news is that it's a new Macbook. That's what the warranty
>> is for :)
>>
>> lc_Chris
>>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Tee Cashmore wrote:
>>
>>> On 26-Jul-07, at 11:59 PM, James Nyers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its a new macbook. Both keys work seperatly. Command key works with
>>>> other keys. "N" key work in other applications. Its just the left
>>>> command key with the letter "N". It worked yesterday. THANX
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> Does sound like a wonky key, good news is that it is easily
>>> replaced.
>>> TTFN, TeeC
>>>
>>
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>> From: Paul Thomas <paul_thomas@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:38:46 -0400
>>
>> I believe someone on this list said that it was not necessary with OS
>> X. But to run MacJanitor and repair Disk Permissions which is all I
>> do!! Just recently mine got so bad that it wouldn't shut down
>> without
>> using the 'on/off' button!!!
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>
>>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
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>> From: Karl Hochmann <k.hochmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:14:45 -0400
>>
>> TechTool Pro certainly defragments; however, it is painfully slow.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:27:23 -0400
>>
>>
>> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>
>>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
>>
>> That's a Windoze thing. In 23 years I've never used, or needed a
>> "Defragger", although currently the Mac way of achieving a similar
>> result is "Repair Permissions", found under "Applications/Utilities/
>> Disk Utility". BTW thank God that Norton has gone, big rip off for
>> Macs!
>> TTFN, TeeC
>>
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>>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Pro, huh?
>>
>> Thanks, Karl. I was looking at TechTool Deluxe, which doesn't have
>> the
>> feature, and it didn't occur to me to see if there was a studlier
>> version from the same stable. I know there's long been controversy
>> over
>> whether defragging serves any purpose at all. I suppose it hardly
>> did,
>> back in the days of relatively small hard drives, but it seems to
>> me to
>> be an ever better idea as storage sizes increase at a rate far faster
>> than processing speed does. The difference was certainly obvious
>> to me
>> on my last Mac, under OS 9. The more places the processor has to
>> access
>> to retrieve everything it needs, the longer it's bound to take. And
>> it's no longer like looking for a few hundred discontiguous
>> paragraphs
>> from here and there in an encyclopedia; with today's megagigabyte
>> drives, it's more like trying to hunt them out when they're scattered
>> through the whole blamed Library of Congress.
>>
>> Doug Bale
>> dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> -------------------
>>
>> Karl Hochmann <k.hochmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> TechTool Pro certainly defragments; however, it is painfully slow.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:28:35 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] permission to defrag?
>>
>> You've stumped me, Tee. How does "Repair permissions" reassemble
>> discontiguous bits of a scattered file and reposition it on the disk
>> with like files, as a defragger does? I thought it was just about
>> defining or redefining authorizations to access those files. Have I
>> missed something? Wouldn't be the first time.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> --- Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>>
>>>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>>>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>>>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>>>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
>>> That's a Windoze thing. In 23 years I've never used, or needed a
>>> "Defragger", although currently the Mac way of achieving a similar
>>> result is "Repair Permissions", found under "Applications/Utilities/
>>> Disk Utility". BTW thank God that Norton has gone, big rip off for
>>> Macs!
>>> TTFN, TeeC
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx>
>> Subject: [muglo] Re: permission to defrag?
>> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:14:14 -0400
>>
>>
>> On 27-Jul-07, at 5:28 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>
>>> You've stumped me, Tee. How does "Repair permissions" reassemble
>>> discontiguous bits of a scattered file and reposition it on the disk
>>> with like files, as a defragger does? I thought it was just about
>>> defining or redefining authorizations to access those files. Have I
>>> missed something? Wouldn't be the first time.
>>
>> As it repairs it does place certain bits in the right place which
>> makes it easier for the computer to find the right file, similar to
>> defragging, verifying is even closer to defrag as it checks that
>> bits, as you put it, are in the right place. There are other ways of
>> cleaning up your drive, but those require backing up all data &
>> basically reformatting the drive.
>> TTFN, TeeC
>>
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