[muglo] defraggers

you also may have too much stuff on the drive in question. My PC had 
this problem, I transferred some of the large programs and files to 
another drive, and the computer is faster. Still doing housecleaning.

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> muglo Digest  Fri, 27 Jul 2007        Volume: 07  Issue: 173
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>               [muglo] defraggers?
>               [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>               [muglo] Re: command+n
>               [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>               [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>               [muglo] Re: defraggers?
>               [muglo] Pro, huh?
>               [muglo] permission to defrag?
>               [muglo] Re: permission to defrag?
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:23:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] defraggers?
> 
> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
> doesn't seem to have that feature.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Scott Strawbridge <scotts1@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:30:37 -0400
> 
> Diskwarrior. I swear by it. (although not technically a defragger)  
> you should see definite speed improvements after running it
> Also a cache cleanup with Onyx or cocktail usually helps
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> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
> 
>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
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> From: Chris <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: command+n
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:38:38 -0400
> 
> Also good news is that it's a new Macbook. That's what the warranty  
> is for :)
> 
> lc_Chris
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Tee Cashmore wrote:
> 
>> On 26-Jul-07, at 11:59 PM, James Nyers wrote:
>>
>>> Its a new macbook. Both keys work seperatly. Command key works with
>>> other keys. "N" key work in other applications. Its just the left
>>> command key with the letter "N". It worked yesterday. THANX
>>>
>>> Jim
>> Does sound like a wonky key, good news is that it is easily replaced.
>> TTFN,    TeeC
>>
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Paul Thomas <paul_thomas@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:38:46 -0400
> 
> I believe someone on this list said that it was not necessary with OS 
> X. But to run MacJanitor and repair Disk Permissions which is all I 
> do!!  Just recently mine got so bad that it wouldn't shut down without 
> using the 'on/off' button!!!
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
> 
>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
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> From: Karl Hochmann <k.hochmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:14:45 -0400
> 
> TechTool Pro certainly defragments; however, it is painfully slow.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: defraggers?
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:27:23 -0400
> 
> 
> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
> 
>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
> 
> That's a Windoze thing. In 23 years I've never used, or needed a  
> "Defragger", although currently the Mac way of achieving a similar  
> result is "Repair Permissions", found under "Applications/Utilities/ 
> Disk Utility". BTW thank God that Norton has gone, big rip off for Macs!
> TTFN,    TeeC
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Pro, huh?
> 
> Thanks, Karl. I was looking at TechTool Deluxe, which doesn't have the
> feature, and it didn't occur to me to see if there was a studlier
> version from the same stable. I know there's long been controversy over
> whether defragging serves any purpose at all. I suppose it hardly did,
> back in the days of relatively small hard drives, but it seems to me to
> be an ever better idea as storage sizes increase at a rate far faster
> than processing speed does. The difference was certainly obvious to me
> on my last Mac, under OS 9. The more places the processor has to access
> to retrieve everything it needs, the longer it's bound to take. And
> it's no longer like looking for a few hundred discontiguous paragraphs
> from here and there in an encyclopedia; with today's megagigabyte
> drives, it's more like trying to hunt them out when they're scattered
> through the whole blamed Library of Congress.
> 
> Doug Bale
> dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> -------------------
> 
> Karl Hochmann <k.hochmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> TechTool Pro certainly defragments; however, it is painfully slow.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:28:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Doug Bale <dougbale@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] permission to defrag?
> 
> You've stumped me, Tee. How does "Repair permissions" reassemble
> discontiguous bits of a scattered file and reposition it on the disk
> with like files, as a defragger does? I thought it was just about
> defining or redefining authorizations to access those files. Have I
> missed something? Wouldn't be the first time.
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> 
> --- Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 27-Jul-07, at 1:23 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
>>
>>> My iBook's getting sluggish, even though it has lots of free memory
>>> left. What are people using to defrag disks these days, now that
>>> Norton's out of that game as far as Macs are concerned? TechTool
>>> doesn't seem to have that feature.
>> That's a Windoze thing. In 23 years I've never used, or needed a  
>> "Defragger", although currently the Mac way of achieving a similar  
>> result is "Repair Permissions", found under "Applications/Utilities/ 
>> Disk Utility". BTW thank God that Norton has gone, big rip off for
>> Macs!
>> TTFN,    TeeC
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Tee Cashmore <teecashmore@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: permission to defrag?
> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:14:14 -0400
> 
> 
> On 27-Jul-07, at 5:28 PM, Doug Bale wrote:
> 
>> You've stumped me, Tee. How does "Repair permissions" reassemble
>> discontiguous bits of a scattered file and reposition it on the disk
>> with like files, as a defragger does? I thought it was just about
>> defining or redefining authorizations to access those files. Have I
>> missed something? Wouldn't be the first time.
> 
> As it repairs it does place certain bits in the right place which  
> makes it easier for the computer to find the right file, similar to  
> defragging, verifying is even closer to defrag as it checks that  
> bits, as you put it, are in the right place. There are other ways of  
> cleaning up your drive, but those require backing up all data &  
> basically reformatting the drive.
> TTFN,   TeeC
> 
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