From experience troubleshooting that problem I can tell you that it's a "dirty" install of Classic!!! My current Classic install *never* crashes on startup, and rarely does so while it's operating (usually Classic only crashes when the web becomes unavailable and I'm pushing poor Outlook Express too hard). PS You are running 10.2.6, right? Eric. >plus, I've had _tons_ of problems with classic mode hanging on >startup, crashing, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/pages/members.html#Joinmuglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/