[muglo] Re: Shutdown

I think that's it - something that was installed after.
The reason being that it shutdown fine after getting it and doing updates,
etc.
I then noticed it when I added other software.
One thing I can think of is a 'Speed Tools' CD that came with a external
hard disc I purchased. I installed  the software it but have never used it.
That may be the problem - seems to be at the 'root' level like Norton does
(it should up in the Activity Viewer).
I'll think I'll try to uninstall it first before doing a fresh install.
Tim
PS - (OT) - Eric - you live in TO - ever been to the Loose Moose (on Front
Street)? Going there for a Pearl Jam pre-show party today.
PSS - have you seen/been in the new Apple Store at the Eaton Centre?
On 5/9/06, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ok, you've narrowed the field dramatically.
>
> 1. It's unlikely to be an application.
> 2. It's unlikely to be an application that opens when you login (you
> confirmed that with your "blank" account and by the fact that you
> "hang" when you're shutting down).
>
> What I would suggest to you now is to do this:
> 1. Look at the kernel extensions that are installed. Did you install
> anything that adds additional "functionality" to the operating system.
> e.g. ANY Norton product (they have for all practical purposes stopped
> supporting Mac OS X),
> ANY anti-virus software (NEVER EVER run anti-virus software on Macs...
> doing so is asking for trouble... viruses don't exist for Macs which
> means that these types of software receive very little R&D attention
> from companies),
> WindowShade/any "haxie"/anything from <http://www.unsanity.com/products>
>
> If you have something like that installed, uninstall it and see if
> that corrects the problem.
>
> 2. Boot your OS X 10.4 DVD and run Disk Utility.
>
> 3. REFORMAT/ERASE the disk (after backing up important files ;-) and
> reinstall the OS for a start fresh.
>
> Number 3 is the BEST option in your case since you never formatted and
> re-installed when you got your computer. Whenever I get a new
> computer, the very first thing I do is to format and re-install, even
> if the person providing me with the computer did a fresh install of
> the OS just before I got it).
>
> I would recommend against trying to "limp" along with the current
> install, even if you fix it -- you're better off starting fresh and
> having an install that will be stable and last you until Mac OS X 10.5
> comes out than one which will force you to reinstall sometime in the
> not-so-distant future.
>
> Eric.
>
> On 09/05/06, Tim Kearn <timmer21@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Thanks to all for their help!
> > I had some short time last night to try a couple of things.
> > 1. When I first made accounts in the mini I made a 'blank' account with
> n=
> o
> > changes (for times like these). When logging into it and trying to shut
> > down, same problem as my account.
> > 2. When first booting up, coming to the log in accounts screen, I tried
> > shutting down from it (using the buttons on the bottom), same problem.
> > 3. Opening the Activity Viewer, there are a number of processes listed
> an=
> d
> > tried quitting the ones I recognized and that have been added, same
> probl=
> em.
> > I have not yet tried other MUGLO suggestions (ie - boot disc repairs),
> wi=
> ll
> > have some time Wednesday night.
> > What is curious to me is that there is no spinning grey 'ball' near the
> > bottom of the screen when shutting down (as there is at start up).
> > I have a feeling I made need to bite the bullet and do a clean install -
> =
> not
> > fun after getting it all set up.
> > Would AppleCare be any help?
> > Tim
> >
> > On 5/9/06, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > The advantage to booting from the install disk is that the Disk
> > > Utility can fix low-level errors that would otherwise not be possible.
> > >
> > > Errant file permissions are minor problems, easily fixed by running
> > > Disk Utility _again_ once the computer has been booted using the HD
> > > OS.
> > >
> > > Come to think of it... Tim, have you done that? i.e. booted with the
> > > installer disk and then repaired the disk? Then, once you boot into
> > > your HD's OS X again, run the repair application again.
> > >
> > > Eric.
> > >
> > > On 09/05/06, Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I, and many others, would recommend that one NEVER repairs
> > > > permissions from the install disk.  The main reasons are that Disk
> > > > Utility has been updated to a newer version via software updates,
> and
> > > > that Disk Utility won't read the receipts (from applications that
> > > > have been installed) and therefore can't set the permissions on
> their
> > > > files correctly.
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > On 9-May-06, at 00:04, Dennis Prance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > Before re-installing the OS I would use the disk utility in the
> > > > > software install disk (disk that came with your mini) and start up
> > > > > with that and repair permissions from that disk it should repair
> an=
> y
> > > > > file ownerships and clean it up. try that if that works great if
> no=
> t
> > > > > then re-install the OS and start from scratch
> > > > >
> > > > > Let us know if we have helped...........Dennis
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