[muglo] Re: Shutdown

Ok, you've narrowed the field dramatically.

1. It's unlikely to be an application.
2. It's unlikely to be an application that opens when you login (you
confirmed that with your "blank" account and by the fact that you
"hang" when you're shutting down).

What I would suggest to you now is to do this:
1. Look at the kernel extensions that are installed. Did you install
anything that adds additional "functionality" to the operating system.
e.g. ANY Norton product (they have for all practical purposes stopped
supporting Mac OS X),
ANY anti-virus software (NEVER EVER run anti-virus software on Macs...
doing so is asking for trouble... viruses don't exist for Macs which
means that these types of software receive very little R&D attention
from companies),
WindowShade/any "haxie"/anything from <http://www.unsanity.com/products>

If you have something like that installed, uninstall it and see if
that corrects the problem.

2. Boot your OS X 10.4 DVD and run Disk Utility.

3. REFORMAT/ERASE the disk (after backing up important files ;-) and
reinstall the OS for a start fresh.

Number 3 is the BEST option in your case since you never formatted and
re-installed when you got your computer. Whenever I get a new
computer, the very first thing I do is to format and re-install, even
if the person providing me with the computer did a fresh install of
the OS just before I got it).

I would recommend against trying to "limp" along with the current
install, even if you fix it -- you're better off starting fresh and
having an install that will be stable and last you until Mac OS X 10.5
comes out than one which will force you to reinstall sometime in the
not-so-distant future.

Eric.

On 09/05/06, Tim Kearn <timmer21@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks to all for their help!
> I had some short time last night to try a couple of things.
> 1. When I first made accounts in the mini I made a 'blank' account with n=
o
> changes (for times like these). When logging into it and trying to shut
> down, same problem as my account.
> 2. When first booting up, coming to the log in accounts screen, I tried
> shutting down from it (using the buttons on the bottom), same problem.
> 3. Opening the Activity Viewer, there are a number of processes listed an=
d
> tried quitting the ones I recognized and that have been added, same probl=
em.
> I have not yet tried other MUGLO suggestions (ie - boot disc repairs), wi=
ll
> have some time Wednesday night.
> What is curious to me is that there is no spinning grey 'ball' near the
> bottom of the screen when shutting down (as there is at start up).
> I have a feeling I made need to bite the bullet and do a clean install - =
not
> fun after getting it all set up.
> Would AppleCare be any help?
> Tim
>
> On 5/9/06, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > The advantage to booting from the install disk is that the Disk
> > Utility can fix low-level errors that would otherwise not be possible.
> >
> > Errant file permissions are minor problems, easily fixed by running
> > Disk Utility _again_ once the computer has been booted using the HD
> > OS.
> >
> > Come to think of it... Tim, have you done that? i.e. booted with the
> > installer disk and then repaired the disk? Then, once you boot into
> > your HD's OS X again, run the repair application again.
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> > On 09/05/06, Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I, and many others, would recommend that one NEVER repairs
> > > permissions from the install disk.  The main reasons are that Disk
> > > Utility has been updated to a newer version via software updates, and
> > > that Disk Utility won't read the receipts (from applications that
> > > have been installed) and therefore can't set the permissions on their
> > > files correctly.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On 9-May-06, at 00:04, Dennis Prance wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Tim
> > > >
> > > > Before re-installing the OS I would use the disk utility in the
> > > > software install disk (disk that came with your mini) and start up
> > > > with that and repair permissions from that disk it should repair an=
y
> > > > file ownerships and clean it up. try that if that works great if no=
t
> > > > then re-install the OS and start from scratch
> > > >
> > > > Let us know if we have helped...........Dennis
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