[muglo] Re: Restarting Beige G3

 Thanks Galen ... 
In my case it was the mouse and it was happening in both OS 9 and X ... I
have Apple Care and the poor Apple Canada folk did not have a clue what was
happening so they sent me two free "meeces" and one free keyboard. 

thanks so much for the comments 

Susan 

Galen wrote: I seriously doubt it's the keyboard. I'm assuming you're
runningMac OS 
9 on your beige - correct? I've noticed people often leave their system 
details out which doesn't help. I'm a Mac computer consultant and I've 
been working on Macs from System 6 on up through the latest 10.2.6. 

My guess is that OS 9 is freezing and that's all. OS X virtually never 
freezes (mostly depending on your hardware's reliability) and you can 
often visually tell - buttons stop throbbing, etc. If you really want 
the real check if the machine is frozen, try connecting to it through 
the network - connect to a shared disk, print to a shared printer, load 
a Personal Web Server page, etc. If it succeeds, your keyboard is 
freezing somehow (which I doubt). If it fails, your machine is just 
plain frozen, one of the realities of OS 9. 

Galen 

P.S. If you need to replace your keyboard, I went down to the local Mac 
store around here and they were *giving away* Apple original ADB 
keyboards. I picked up one. Check your local Mac store or Goodwill, 
they'll have them for free/cheap. But, as I said earlier, I doubt it's 
the keyboard. 

On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 06:44 AM, Susan Dunbar wrote: 

>  FYI 
> I found that I had a problem on my G4 with both my mouse and keyboard. 
> 
> I had my mouse replaced twice and my keyboard once. 
> 
> Hope you still have a warranty or have Apple Care. 
> 
> Just a thought. 
> 
> Susan 
> 
> 
> 
> "Eric D." wrote: on 29/5/03 9:51 PM, Ken at kdavis@xxxxxx wrote: 
> 
>> The keyboard and mouse on my G3 sometimes fail to respond. 
>> (Connections check OK and unplugging and reconecting trackball 
>> doesn't solve). There seems to be only an on/off button on the front 
>> of the tower. 
>> 
>> Is there not a reset button on the G3s? Am I relegated to the 
>> separate operations of shutdown and restart? 
> 
> Beige G3s, two options: 
> 1. reset or programmer buttons are on back (one freezes the computer, 
> the 
> other restarts it); 
> 
> 2. command-control-power should force a hard-restart (same effect as 
> the 
> reset button... it activates the same hardware interrupt). 
> 
> One way to check to see whether your computer is frozen is to type 
> command-option-escape, or command-power. If that brings something up, 
> you 
> know it's just a software crash. 
> 
> PS What do you mean fails to respond? 
> 
> PSS unplugging/plugging in ADB devices does not "reset" them 
> (technically 
> the only ports on a pre-USB machine that are hot-pluggable (i.e. 
> computer 
> shouldn't be turn off) are the serial ports and audio ports). 
> 
> Eric. 
> 
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