[muglo] Re: Probably a REALLY dumb question...

Which Power PC model do you intend to use for your server?

Why do you need to boot and shut-down remotely?

Also, what software will it be using and what protocol? FTP, HTTP, 
FirstClass, Hotline, mIRC, etc?

You can set the computer to turn on and off at specified times using the 
Energy Saver control panel in OS 9. Depending on the software it can 
cooperate or not. You can also set the computer to *always* turn on. On 
newer machines this requires a software setting IIRC. On older ones (in all 
likelihood since you didn't mention G3, G4 or G5 after PowerPC) you can 
twist the power button to "force" it to always turn on whenever it has 
power.

Turning it *on* remotely (except for a scheduled wake-up) will require a 
specialised hardware solution. Turning it off or restarting remotely is 
possible with software. You could pick up an old copy of Timbuktu or Apple 
Remote Desktop off eBay or the LowEndMac.com swaplist.

To do a manual, local shutdown you need either (i) a keyboard, or (ii) a 
mouse and monitor (to select shutdown from the relevant menu).

I would suggest you leave the keyboard hooked up to the server in case you 
ever need to do command-control-power to reset, or hit power key followed by 
enter to do a safe manual shut down or power key followed by r to do a safe 
manual restart.

You can run a peripheral-less server but OS 9 is simply not stable enough to 
run solo.

You *could* install Yellow Dog Linux as your server software. This would 
allow you a *great* deal of remote control without great expense -- you can 
login remotely using any Telnet or SSH client and send remote commands to 
restart or shutdown you computer. This could even be automated/scripted 
depending on your client computer. I have been lead to believe that the 
installation and setup process of YDL 3.0 is fairly approachable, and, once 
operational requires little modification. Additionally, YDL has servers for 
nearly every web and network protocol imaginable.

Besides, even if you don't like it, it's only an investment of $40 (or $0 if 
you take the time to download and burn your own CDs)... though, the $40 does 
get you an install manual and 6 CDs and saves you the headache of 
downloading and burning.

<http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/>

Eric.

>From: Garth Phillips <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: Org Muglo@Freelists. <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [muglo] Probably a REALLY dumb question...
>Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:19:49 -0400
>
>I have an old PowerPC that works well and I simply want to turn it into
>a server... no keyboard or monitor are required for this role.
>My question is does anyone know if (and better yet how) to boot and
>shut-down a mac remotely or do I need to keep the keyboard and monitor
>handy for start-up and shut down?
>
>Also, below are this week's prices from Macdoc (a home-based reseller
>out in the western fringes of Mississauga). I normally wouldn't send
>this out except the Clamshell iBook @ 399 might be helpful for a broken
>G3 laptop as parts or to chain to the drive.
>
>Thanx,
>Garth.

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