[muglo] Re: Photopaper

Thanks for this Larry

Will pursue further and report back

On 16 Sep 2004, at 9:19 AM, Larry Kryski wrote:

> Ilbert,
> The "best" deals for paper (8.5 x 11) that I've found, have been at 
> Costco.
> They have been selling Kodak and Epson glossy papers in packages of 100
> sheets at $38.00 and $41-43.00 per box (These are guestimates as to 
> what I
> paid... it's been a while since I bought them).
>
> The Kodak is a cooler paper than the Epson, for the same settings on my
> printer, a Canon i9100.
>
> You might be wondering why I but "best" in quotes? I'll explain.
>
> I do some commercial printing (up to 13" x 19") with my printer so was
> concerned about the water resistance of my prints since Canon says the 
> ink
> is not waterproof and my experience was that it wasn't water proof. I 
> was
> wondering what would happen if a bit of water gets on one of my prints 
> or
> even a lot of water, so I did a water test which turned out to produce 
> some
> very interesting results.
>
> I keep three brands of paper in stock: Canon, Epson and Kodak. I took 
> glossy
> samples of the Kodak and Epson papers that I had printed months 
> earlier and
> a new sample of the Canon (Photo Paper Pro) that I had printed earlier 
> the
> same day and ran them under the tap. I was quite shocked by the 
> results.
>
> The ink on the Kodak paper began to run (it didn't walk first! :-) as 
> fast
> as the water moved, but what was most distressing was that within a few
> seconds, the emulsion itself began to wash off the paper. It eroded 
> fastest
> where there was no ink, and slower where the ink was denser. The white
> border around the paper disappeared the fastest.
>
> The Epson paper was a little better... While the ink ran almost 
> immediately,
> the emulsion withstood the stream of water for about 30 seconds and 
> then
> slowly began to let go. On the Epson paper, some of the inks seemed to 
> take
> longer to go than others. Perhaps this was a density thing. If there 
> was any
> mechanical abrasion, such as finger rubbing, the emulsion freely let 
> go.
>
> The biggest surprise came from the Canon Photo Pro papers. Although 
> the ink
> was only a few hours old when the test was performed, the Canon 
> paper/ink
> combination was under the tap for 20 minutes without any deterioration 
> in
> the image quality or the surface emulsion. And further, finger 
> abrasion, did
> not create any observable change that could be identified when the 
> paper was
> wet or after it had been dried out.
>
> Be aware that all the papers warped when they dried out. None of them 
> are
> designed for full immersion.
>
> A test the next day with Canon's High Resolution Matte Paper (28lb) 
> produced
> a similar result to the Photo Paper Pro paper. Being a lighter paper, 
> it
> warped quite badly.
>
> So if water resistance is a concern, you might like to test out your
> paper/ink combos before you go ahead with the job.
>
> I would be interested in hearing the results if anyone else tries this 
> test
> with other types of paper/ink combinations.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> On 04/09/15 10:53 PM, "Tee Cashmore" <teecashmore@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 15-Sep-04, at 7:30 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote:
>>
>>> For Tee and the other bargain hunters.........................
>>>
>>> Where are the best prices for quality 11 x 8 , and smaller size
>>> photopapers , gloss, semigloss or plain
>>>
>>> Any recommendations= re paper type and place to buy ?
>>>
>>> I'm using a Canon i960
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ilbert,
>> I usually get 8.5 x 11 Glossy from Forest City Surplus (Legacy 15
>> sheets $3.95),  otherwise I usually buy 4" x 6" at Staples in either 
>> 50
>> or 100 sheets depending on price. They also have 8.5 x 11, but I 
>> rarely
>>   use that size.
>>
>>> PS  Experiencing no problems sending/receiving from MUGLO
>>
>> Well I've lost a few missing posts, but they have eventually turned 
>> up.
>> I just figured it was Bells' problem with my DSL line, which is 
>> finally
>> up & running well. Bell cut my DSL connection, instead of transferring
>> it and took 1.5 weeks to correct the problem.
>> TTFN,
>> TeeC
>>
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