[muglo] Editing DVDs Revisitrd

Hi all

I am sorry to bring up the subject again but I have progressed a little 
but stuck again and hoping that someone can help me!

You may remember that my problem is to edit parts of a movie on a DVD 
and create a new DVD!  Sounds simple and Apple certainly have gone part 
of the way with iMovie and iDVD.
I have now achieved making a DVD (apart from burning) using iDVD and 
pieces of movie material which I found had to be one of the following: 
iMovie output, mpeg-4 or file type .dv (a Quicktime movie).
I used Streamclip to edit a movie file from a DVD (a .vob file) which 
easily creates another .vob file! (which is readable with VLC) which is 
not acceptable by either iMovie  nor iDVD. Streamclip does allow 
conversions but the speed (on my colmputer) is far too slow; exporting 
a 90.4Meg took about 40 mins to convert 10% of the file!  To convert a 
whole 1hour movie segment would take for  ........!!!!
Another strange fact that I found out was iMovie would accept a portion 
of a movie in .vob form but although it seemed to import the whole 
segment (it took about 2.5 mins to import), when played, it only played 
about 28 secs. whereas with VLC it took about 17 mins to play (which 
was to be expected - so it seems that although iMovie appeared to 
import the whole thing, it only played a small fraction of it!!!

So i am, as they say back to base 1!!  It seems that Apple assume that 
one's original is coming from a camcorder and have made no provision 
for allowing the source to be on a DVD - this seems strange to me!!

Anyway, I have done a Google search for ideas but not come up with any 
workabe ideas beyond Streamclip which cannot easily get it's output 
into iMovie or iDVD!!

Someone suggested using Handbrake.  I looked at this which looks good 
but requires OSX 10.4 for Graphical input or Command-Line for 10.3!  I 
have 10.3.9 and looked at the Command-line version which frankly made 
no sense to me (not being familiar with this mode of operation!!).  I 
could purchase version 10.4 and try the Graphical form of the 
programme! But before going to this expense (for 10.4) I would like to 
know if anyone has actually used Handbrake (Graphical) - which I 
understand also allows editing of the video files - vto take a video 
file off a DVD, edit it, and then put it into iDVD to burn a new DVD?
  According to the Handbrake web page it looks as if this can be done 
but I would like to hear if anyone has actually had experience in doing 
what I want to do and which looks possible using Handbrake and iDVD?

If I get a positive response to this message, then I will probably go 
ahead and get the OS X (10.4) upgrade!

I am sorry for the length of this message but I wanted to make it clear 
(I hope) as to my present situation, the problems I have encountered 
and what appears to me to be the solution!!

Paul

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