[muglo] Re: Adobe Acrobat for 8.6 or 9.2 (internet payments)

on 10/22/03 6:14, Eric D at hideme666@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> Martin A has told me a bit more about PrintToPDF, which is still
>> available as a download, but it involves paying online, which I
>> detest, even from a secure site.
> 
> Do you ever give out your credit card over the phone or use phone-banking?
> Do you ever allow someone to make a physical imprint of your credit card
> (the way CC payments used to be processed before the advent of card
> readers). If so, you should be aware that these are [often much] *less*
> secure than paying on-line, especially if you ever use a cordless phone or
> cell phone to make your calls (with a cheap $50 receiver you can tune into
> any cordless phone, and for only a little more you can tune into analogue
> cell calls). A physical imprint of your credit card is the worst for your
> personal security -- not only do people have you CC number, name and expirey
> date, but they *also* have your signature. All they need is your birth date
> and they can start doing nasty stuff in your name.
> 
> Anyway, I understand your skepticism of paying on-line. For the longest time
> I was leery of it and never thought I'd dare use it (even though I'd been
> banking on-line for years). That was about a year ago. Now I do as much
> on-line as possible (more convenient). A lot of companies are giving
> discounts if you use their on-line service rather than calling in or doing
> things in person, and on-line transactions are inherently more secure than
> those conducted in person (since less information is transferred).
> 
> Also, if you're leery of paying on-line to just anyone with your credit
> card, you may want to open up a PayPal or Kagi account which act as
> intermediaries btween you and the merchant. Both are reputable companies
> with secure connections.
> 
> PS Am finding the UK an interesting place to observe. Web access is slow
> compared to Canada, smoking is still culturally accepted and accepted in
> public places, food is *horribly* meat-centric (& they even put meat in
> their pies... shudder), everything is pasturised, even freshly squeezed OJ
> sold in the supermarket (the pre-packaged OJ here tastes like tang), the
> vegetarian selection is pretty limited (about where Canada was 5-6 years
> ago... soya milk... I've *only* found 1 L So Good plain (no flavours,
> nothing like Beatrice 's fruit-concoctions (yummy)) and some fruits
> (oranges) and veggies are pretty bland or unpalatable (zucchinis have been a
> dismal failure whenever I got them.... bitter).
> 
> But there are upsides to the food too, more than compensating for the
> drawbacks: the markets are wonderful and the apples and pears are *amazing*,
> they have lots of good Dutch & European cheeses  and some excellent local
> cheddars (I like (the cheap) Red Leicster (spelling?)), a *wide* range of
> Indian foods (lots of premade sauces) and lots of organic stuff (& lots of
> bakeries with fresh bread)!
> 
> The entertainment and TV culture is interestingly different (from my
> Canadian POV). They still bleep afew "dirty" words (piss-ing/-ed off/-er is
> the only one I've noticed) but fortunately fewer than in Canada and they
> don't have the debased NA puritanical phobia/obession regarding nudity. They
> also have religious services on the BBC (shocked the hell out of me when I
> first figured out what I was listening to on *public* radio).
> 
> The "debate" about a gay preist (or cardinal or whatever) shows an
> interesting aspect of UK society (maybe my take on things will change with
> further observations). In Canada we'd have some pretty nasty vitriole about
> the evilness of homosexuality/homosexuals followed by a platitude like "love
> thy neighbour" (so long as they're straight ;) (as evidenced by the filth
> coming out of Canadians' mouths about gay marriage). Here the clergy make
> noise but it seems like real people are not scandalised by the thought of
> having a gay guy ordained (maybe this is b/c most peopole here don't care
> about/for religion). In contrast to that ambivalence about something that
> would be a hot button issue back in Canada it seems that xenophobia is  all
> too common (not that we don't have anti-immigrant factions in Canada... you
> just don't usually get exposed to these anti-immigrant/anti-refugee people
> (except when a CRAP MP or Ontario Tory MPP opens their mouths :()... the
> things I've heard from a few locals about "Pakies" makes the hairs on the
> back of my neck stand up (it seems like they assume that b/c I'm white and
> am a native English speaker I am naturally a "like minded person"... but,
> this is only a minority of the people I've met (still a disturbing minority
> though)!).
> 
> Also, no real 24 hour news channels  or weather channels (& that's with Sky
> TV (digital cable service)... though, there are so many channels (>100 I
> figure)  I may be missing the2 4 hour news channels)
> 
> Anyway, tha's a lot of OT stuff mixed with some on-topic stuff. It's an
> interesting country. The UK has problems where Canada has none and vice
> versa. (lots of bureacracy here).
> 
> PS AOL is truly AOHell. Why someone would in their right mind pay for AOHell
> boggles my mind. (I'm using it only b/c it gave one month free while I look
> for a high speed provider)
> 
> L8r, Eric.
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Hi Eric,

Which part of the UK are you in?
I find it rather strange that you are having 'trouble' with the food, try
going to M&S, they usually have a very good range of 'veggie' meals.

Teresa


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