[mso] Re: exe files
- From: "Richard Davisson" <rld187@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:33:51 -0400
Don't you think that the root cause of all of this should be taken care =
of? My computer is protected just as yours is, but I don't like someone =
telling me how to use it. It is not my fault that there are bored =
assholes out there with nothing to do but make virii. It just happens =
to be my choice that I choose to protect what I have with AV software =
and the like. It doesn't make me a bad or irresponsible person if I =
choose not to. Yes, maybe irresponsible to myself, but certainly not =
others. =20
Richard L. Davisson
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/WhatsonmyPalm
We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered=20
minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.
Johann von Goethe
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
> >that one can or can't do with one's software seems a pretty =
"big-brotherly"
> way of doing things.=20
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> Pssst...it's NOT your software! You're only renting a license to use =
what
> they have produced. If you don't like what they produce, buy another =
brand.
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> And what YOU do on your own computer doesn't JUST affect YOU. If that =
were
> the case, I would not have had to spend over an hour wasting my time =
because
> stupid/uninformed people "did what they wanted" on their own
> computers...opened viruses, got infected and cause ME to waste my Sat
> morning because they "did what they wanted."=20
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> If a virus only blew up your own computer, then I'd say "sure, open =
whatever
> the hell you want!" But the reality is that, the more people who "do =
what
> they want" and don't pay attention to what they SHOULD do, causes a =
ton of
> work for others. Admins and companies in the workplace and the rest of =
use
> poor slobs out her on the net when THEIR computers turn into =
spam/virus
> agents and start spewing out thousands of emails to those people in =
their
> addressbook!
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> You have to realize...what you do does NOT just hurt you...it hurts =
many,
> many others out here and also clogs up the net! Sure, the Internet is =
free
> to all...just as the highways are. But, just as you should not act
> recklessly on the highway, cos' your actions could cause serious =
damage to
> innocents...so goes with the Internet. And the sooner others =
understand
> that...the sooner the rest of us can get on with it.=20
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> My computer is protected, my network is protected, I've spent hours =
guarding
> myself and my computer against viruses, security issues, et al. I add =
every
> damn patch necessary to ensure I'm safe. Yet I still have to waste my =
time
> because so many out there "did what they wanted!"
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> Dian Chapman
> Technical Consultant,=20
> Microsoft MVP & Instructor
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
> Of Errol Sapir
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:39 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
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> Dian & Neil
> I see that Dian is peeved at being spammed with viruses just as I was =
with
> having to find a third party way of allowing me to do what I want with =
my
> computer. I still feel that if Microsoft want to "protect us" they =
should
> give us the credit and allow us to decide for ourselves our needs and =
wants.
> I agree with you Neil about the user being the greatest security =
threat, but
> controlling what one can or can't do with one's software seems a =
pretty
> "big-brotherly" way of doing things. Education not being a policeman =
should
> be the answer!
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> Errol
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
> Of Neil Atwood
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:21 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
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> You're welcome Errol.
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> I'm not a defender of MS, but it seems to me that they have been doing =
a
> pretty good job of plugging the holes as soon as they are known. There
> hasn't been a major security issue with OL for quite a long time.
> The attachment policy is simply plugging the biggest security hole =
there is
> - the one sitting in the chair! ;-)
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> ____________________________________
> Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia=20
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> "If you want to improve your understanding, drink coffee; it is the
> intelligent beverage."
> Sydney Smith
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> :-----Original Message-----
> :From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> :[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Errol Sapir
> :Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2003 2:27 AM
> :To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> :Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
> :
> : Neil
> :Thanks
> :I used one of the addin programs and now I am in control.=20
> :Dian had I known there was that limitation I would have=20
> :done something like
> :you suggested. It still doesn't make Microsoft right in=20
> :my eyes. They should
> :be blocking up other "holes" rather than restricting users.
> :Errol
> :
> :-----Original Message-----
> :From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> :[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> :Of Neil Atwood
> :Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:45 AM
> :To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> :Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
> :
> :Well Errol, this is not exactly a new issue with Outlook,=20
> :but are a number
> :of ways around it.
> :This page details them all:
> :http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/getexe.htm
> :
> :It's really very simple to work around this.
> :
> :FWIW, remember the day when OL and OE let all attachments=20
> :through? For
> :Outlook that was pre OL2000 SP2.
> :People screamed blue murder that MS should do something=20
> :to stop idiots
> :opening virus-laden emails, and that OL was an admin=20
> :nightmare (and
> :remember, OL is primarily a business tool rather than for=20
> :home users)!
> :Well, MS did do something about it, and now people=20
> :(probably different
> :people) scream about how MS treats them as dummies...
> :You can't please all of the people all of the time...
> :
> :Regards
> :____________________________________
> :Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia=20
> :
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