[mso] Re: exe files

  • From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 18:04:56 -0500

>that one can or can't do with one's software seems a pretty "big-brotherly"
way of doing things. 

Pssst...it's NOT your software! You're only renting a license to use what
they have produced. If you don't like what they produce, buy another brand.

And what YOU do on your own computer doesn't JUST affect YOU. If that were
the case, I would not have had to spend over an hour wasting my time because
stupid/uninformed people "did what they wanted" on their own
computers...opened viruses, got infected and cause ME to waste my Sat
morning because they "did what they wanted." 

If a virus only blew up your own computer, then I'd say "sure, open whatever
the hell you want!" But the reality is that, the more people who "do what
they want" and don't pay attention to what they SHOULD do, causes a ton of
work for others. Admins and companies in the workplace and the rest of use
poor slobs out her on the net when THEIR computers turn into spam/virus
agents and start spewing out thousands of emails to those people in their
addressbook!

You have to realize...what you do does NOT just hurt you...it hurts many,
many others out here and also clogs up the net! Sure, the Internet is free
to all...just as the highways are. But, just as you should not act
recklessly on the highway, cos' your actions could cause serious damage to
innocents...so goes with the Internet. And the sooner others understand
that...the sooner the rest of us can get on with it. 

My computer is protected, my network is protected, I've spent hours guarding
myself and my computer against viruses, security issues, et al. I add every
damn patch necessary to ensure I'm safe. Yet I still have to waste my time
because so many out there "did what they wanted!"

Dian Chapman
Technical Consultant, 
Microsoft MVP & Instructor

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-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Errol Sapir
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:39 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files

Dian & Neil
I see that Dian is peeved at being spammed with viruses just as I was with
having to find a third party way of allowing me to do what I want with my
computer. I still feel that if Microsoft want to "protect us" they should
give us the credit and allow us to decide for ourselves our needs and wants.
I agree with you Neil about the user being the greatest security threat, but
controlling what one can or can't do with one's software seems a pretty
"big-brotherly" way of doing things. Education not being a policeman should
be the answer!

Errol

-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Neil Atwood
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:21 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files

You're welcome Errol.

I'm not a defender of MS, but it seems to me that they have been doing a
pretty good job of plugging the holes as soon as they are known. There
hasn't been a major security issue with OL for quite a long time.
The attachment policy is simply plugging the biggest security hole there is
- the one sitting in the chair!  ;-)

____________________________________
Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia 

"If you want to improve your understanding, drink coffee; it is the
intelligent beverage."
Sydney Smith

 

 

     :-----Original Message-----
     :From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
     :[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Errol Sapir
     :Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2003 2:27 AM
     :To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     :Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
     :
     : Neil
     :Thanks
     :I used one of the addin programs and now I am in control. 
     :Dian had I known there was that limitation I would have 
     :done something like
     :you suggested. It still doesn't make Microsoft right in 
     :my eyes. They should
     :be blocking up other "holes" rather than restricting users.
     :Errol
     :
     :-----Original Message-----
     :From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
     :[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
     :Of Neil Atwood
     :Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:45 AM
     :To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     :Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
     :
     :Well Errol, this is not exactly a new issue with Outlook, 
     :but are a number
     :of ways around it.
     :This page details them all:
     :http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/getexe.htm
     :
     :It's really very simple to work around this.
     :
     :FWIW, remember the day when OL and OE let all attachments 
     :through? For
     :Outlook that was pre OL2000 SP2.
     :People screamed blue murder that MS should do something 
     :to stop idiots
     :opening virus-laden emails, and that OL was an admin 
     :nightmare (and
     :remember, OL is primarily a business tool rather than for 
     :home users)!
     :Well, MS did do something about it, and now people 
     :(probably different
     :people) scream about how MS treats them as dummies...
     :You can't please all of the people all of the time...
     :
     :Regards
     :____________________________________
     :Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia 
     :
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