I just thought of allegory for my last response to you. Check this: >My computer is protected just as yours is, > but I don't like someone telling me how to use it. So, you're sitting in an IRC room, say #2600, one day and some goon posts you the mechanics of overflowing the RPC buffer for IPC in the NetBIOS stack on Win32 systems. You see this thing, think about it for a moment and decide you'll wrap that up with an IP incrementing routine based on Class B addressing and throw in a little bone to cause this thing to spread itself to other systems and TFTP to get that propagation mechanism down to keep your initial payload light and nimble. Oh, yeah! Let's not forget to add a little text missive to lecture Mr. Gates about the responsibilities of being rich! Congrats, you've created MSBlaster (the first one). You and your buddies anonymize the spread of this little jewel by posting to the immediately unprotected clients of another IRC channel using a bot, leave the room immediately and even close the channel and, Presto! It's in the wild!! At what point do you think someone should have told you what to do with your computer? I mean, after the fact, some anatomically impossible suggestions come to mind so we'll leave that time period out of the question.<g> For doing all this, were you? - irresponsible - malicious - abusive - doing your duty to improve worldwide system security - passing an important message to Bill G - all of these - none of these Thanks for giving it some thought. Bringing this back to Office, I'd say that it's true that having your attachments blocked is annoying as can be. But I don't think we can be so completely annoyed that some external entity creates its software with deliberately hobbled functions and still manages to get people to use it in that state. I mean, I sure wish we could have hobbled that kid in the IRC chat room *before* his poor sense of responsibility impacted us all. Greg Chapman http://www.mousetrax.com "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11! With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?" > -----Original Message----- > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Davisson > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:34 PM > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mso] Re: exe files > > > Don't you think that the root cause of all of this should be > taken care = of? My computer is protected just as yours is, > but I don't like someone = telling me how to use it. It is > not my fault that there are bored = assholes out there with > nothing to do but make virii. It just happens = to be my > choice that I choose to protect what I have with AV software > = and the like. It doesn't make me a bad or irresponsible > person if I = choose not to. Yes, maybe irresponsible to > myself, but certainly not = others. =20 Richard L. Davisson > http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/WhatsonmyPalm > We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered=20 > minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe. > Johann von Goethe > ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************