[mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
- From: "David Grugeon" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:25:55 +1000
Thanks. I would like to know but at the moment I have spent far more than
the time available on this problem so I shall just be glad it works.
Best Regards
David Grugeon
Grugeon Consulting
(07) 3263 7786
Original message:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jonathan
> Drawer
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:57 AM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
>
> If the problem does then appear to be related to an add-in, then you might
be interested in
> trying to determine which it is. This might be possible by disabling one
at a time until Word
> then behaves bad again. I expect you may have to close Word after you
disable an add-in,
> open Word, and close Word again to see if you get the old message to save
normal.dotm.
> Then open Word and disable the next add-in. If there are a high number of
add-ins then
> several could be disable as a group at once until you find the group that
causes the problem.
> Then enable the add-ins in that group one at a time until the problem goes
away.
> Jonathan
>
> --- On Thu, 2/4/10, David Grugeon <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: David Grugeon <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 7:01 PM
>
> Hi Dian
>
> Crazy Stuff.
>
> I suspected Outlook Connector so I removed it. No apparent change.
> Then I re-enabled a heap of add-ins that I had previously disabled
>
> Closed Word and saved the template.
>
> Reopened word and the problem has gone away. Yippee!
>
> Best Regards
>
> David Grugeon
> Grugeon Consulting
> (07) 3263 7786
>
> Original message:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Dian
> > Chapman
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:47 PM
> > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> >
> > Well...I haven't had trouble with that, but it might be some odd combo
of
> > that that you have and I don't???
> >
> > BTW...you should search your entire HD for ALL ~*.* files (make SURE you
> add
> > that tilde [ ~ ] or you'll get ALL your files) and delete any normals
you
> > find. Or to be safe, search *normal.* and see if you get any that were
> saved
> > in other default dirs???
> >
> > Good luck...
> >
> > Dian D. Chapman
> > Technical Consultant & Microsoft MVP,
> > MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine,
> > Technical Editor/Word & Office 2007 Bibles
> > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
> >
> > Dian's Soldiers' Site
> > http://www.mousetrax.com/Angels
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> > Of David Grugeon
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:02 AM
> > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> >
> > Hi Dian
> >
> > Still no joy. I deleted all the C:\Windows\Temp files and all the
> > C:\Documents and Settings\david\Local Settings\Temp files. (5000 odd)
but
> I
> > still get the prompt. 139 items have come back in 2 days.
> >
> > I really think it is somewhere else. The only thing I do wonder about
is
> > the Windows Live Toolbar. I might just uninstall Windows Live and see
if
> > that makes a difference. At least I would avoid that wait while it
works
> > out how to set up the places bar each time I want to open or close
> anything.
> > I had expected to use Windows Live but in practice I don't.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > David Grugeon
> > Grugeon Consulting
> > (07) 3263 7786
> >
> > Original message:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > Of Dian
> > > Chapman
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:45 AM
> > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> > >
> > > Huh!?!?!
> > >
> > > When you use the /a switch that is SUPPOSED to stop all addins. But I
> > > do know that I've found the occasional renegade app. Example, as much
> > > as I
> > love
> > > SnagIt...when the first incarnations of the new version came out,
> > > there
> > was
> > > a bug that caused SnagIt to hang on to the system files for a
> > > particular image (the last one used). It was freaking me out cos' I'd
> > > snap/view a pic with SnagIt and then go into WinExplorer to maybe
> > > delete, move or rename
> > the
> > > file, but I would get a warning that I couldn't do that cos' someone
> > > else was using it! I FINALLY discovered that if I crashed SnagIt (via
> > > Task Mgr) that the image would be freed up...even though it was
> > > closed, it still had tentacles attached to the image that assumed it
> > > was still in use! Same
> > goes,
> > > as most of you know, if the TEMP folder has crashed versions of
> > > Normal.*...you'll get error msgs saying that you can't modify it cos'
> > > someone else is using it, or it is in use.
> > >
> > > Have you cleared your temp folder to ensure no ~*.tmp versions of
> > > normal
> > are
> > > locked up?
> > >
> > > Dian D. Chapman
> > > Technical Consultant & Microsoft MVP,
> > > MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine, Technical Editor/Word
> > > & Office 2007 Bibles
> > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
> > >
> > > Dian's Soldiers' Site
> > > http://www.mousetrax.com/Angels
> > >
> > > Free Word Tricks eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
> > > Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html
> > > Free Computer Tutorials: http://www.techtrax.us
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of David Grugeon
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:01 AM
> > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> > >
> > > Yes. I have done that. There must be something else hijacking it.
> > > Not normal.dot or dotm.
> > >
> > > It feels like there is an invisible add-in or global template.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > David Grugeon
> > > Grugeon Consulting
> > > (07) 3263 7786
> > >
> > > Original message:
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > Of Dian
> > > > Chapman
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> > > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> > > >
> > > > So I haven't gone through all your "I did this/that" list, but have
> > > > you tried renaming it to get a fresh version?
> > > >
> > > > Dian D. Chapman
> > > > Technical Consultant & Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified Instructor,
> > > > Editor/TechTrax Ezine, Technical Editor/Word & Office 2007 Bibles
> > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
> > > >
> > > > Dian's Soldiers' Site
> > > > http://www.mousetrax.com/Angels
> > > >
> > > > Free Word Tricks eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
> > > > Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html
> > > > Free Computer Tutorials: http://www.techtrax.us
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf Of David Grugeon
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:39 PM
> > > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> > > >
> > > > No. No field codes.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > David Grugeon
> > > > Grugeon Consulting
> > > > (07) 3263 7786
> > > >
> > > > Original message:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf
> > > > Of Wilson
> > > > > Baptista Junior
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:19 PM
> > > > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [mso] Re: Prompt to save changes to Normal.dotm
> > > > >
> > > > > David,
> > > > > does your normal.dotm use any field codes, such as for example to
> > > > > insert
> > > > today's date or time
> > > > > in the document? Those will produce a change every time the
> > > > > template is
> > > > opened.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wilson
> > > > >
> > > > > At 20:12 1/2/2010 +1000,David Grugeon wrote:
> > > > > >I have no add ins loaded. I have no templates open other than
> > > > Normal.dotm.
> > > > > >there are no macros in normal.dotm. I have turned on the prompt
> > > > > >to save Normal.dotm option because I want to know!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If I open with the shift key down the problem is still there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If I open using "run/winword /a" the problem is not there unless
> > > > > >I set
> > > > the
> > > > > >prompt to save on, when it comes back.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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