[mso] Re: Moderation...or Censorship?
- From: "Ian and Anita Elliott" <ian_and_anita@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:06:18 +0530
Dear all,
I agree with your mail regarding the helpfulness and benefits of the =
list.
However I just want to say that nowhere in my mail did I mention that =
the
thread should vanish. In fact according to Linda and others it had =
already
stopped eight hours before I posted my message, unfortunately for some
reason I was getting messages through the day and there has been no =
eight
hour gap as experienced by you all, my post was less than 30 minutes =
after
the last message on the subject.=20
Perhaps my post was a little unclear or I had used the wrong words but =
my
feeling was that I detected a trend where people were comparing Access =
and
Excel and scrambling to promote one or the other. I have seen such posts =
on
other lists and they usually are a waste of time and effort. My point =
was
that everyone uses what they are comfortable with and each person =
invariably
feels that they are right! That goes for religion, car, operating system
etc. My suggestion I suppose was to chill and get back to the topic. =
There
is no need for people 'to take exception' to what has been said about a
piece of software for goodness sake!! Maybe some of you don't agree with =
me
on that - that=92s fine. I use Excel to 'calculate' my monthly shopping =
list
(we have a foster home with fifteen kids) my Mum uses a scrap of paper -
both do the job well for each of us - there is no point in us trying to
change, I could explain how I do it but not be critical of her scrap of
paper!
When Linda responded in the way that she did by abruptly closing the =
thread
I must confess that I was a little surprised as that was not at all my
intention of the post, after all a few others also had expressed some
surprise at the posts that were coming through. If I am wrong in what I =
am
saying - who cares it is just an opinion amongst many and I am happy to =
get
responses on that! There is no question of killing the thread on the =
basis
of my opinion. I did not post after that since Linda had requested that
however I have been corresponding off list regarding this matter.
Please understand me I am saying YES to the discussion but my request =
was to
keep responses more on the subject. There is no way that Linda can make =
an
assumption that I would vote no on the matter.=20
Remember that good folk like Ray Blake can make Excel perform miracles, =
even
using Excel as a word processor! I would be unhappy if someone wrote =
back
and took exception to him saying that since Word is far better for word
processing - that is simply my point and I felt that was happening with =
the
whole topic.
Finally I must say that I now regret posting on that matter since the =
whole
thing has been blown out of proportion. Perhaps due to my wording - =
Please
accept my apologies unless that is also interpreted as 'right hearted =
wrong
headed'. In future I will 'censor' my involvement to just asking =
questions.=20
Regards
Ian Elliott
-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
Of Jim Pettit
Sent: 09 June 2004 20:47
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Moderation...or Censorship?
Linda/All--
I've always found this newsgroup to be a good source of Office-related
info because it comes from real end users, not from some Redmond-based
spokesperson paid to peddle The Company line. To me, it's that
separation that has given the group freedom, and it's that freedom
that's given the group its usefulness. But now, over the past 24 hours
or so I've watched what I consider a good and useful thread vanish
without a trace because it bothered a few folks.
That's not moderation, Linda; that's censorship.
You wrote, "...it's not worth it if it makes members uncomfortable." If
open, honest, wholly on-topic discussion makes some members
uncomfortable, perhaps they can hang out in any of the myriad of
Micro$oft's Official Newsgroups, where they're guaranteed to never hear
a dissenting opinion. Yes, it's your group, and yes, you've done a
better job than most at moderating what could have easily become a
confusing, hand-waving, free-for-all. But still, if this group is going
to avoid on-topic discussions because a few right-hearted but
wrong-headed folks complain, I suppose I'm the one who needs to look
elsewhere.
--Jim
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