[mso] Re: Fixing the MSO sorting issue!

I can confirm this works using both methods in Outlook XP as I've tried
both methods on this thread and it has held everything together as it
should...with the exception of the original message, unfortunately.

For your own resolution, it appears to me that this view might be
utilizing only the subject field to figure out how to sort things
initially and followed by the time stamp. So far, the In-Reply-To header
looks strongest followed by Subject and X-archive-position in preference
but they appear to be ignored. In practice, I only ever expect this to
happen when X- fields are used. All others *should* be honored. But I'm
also not surprised when this sort of thing is broken. It's some crazy
logic that would be required to glue all that together properly.

Look through the headers on the threads that don't seem to work for you
and compare the differences. On this thread, so far, I have the following
header data for use in comparison:

From: "Christine" <blue3123@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Re: Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:57:48 -0800
Message-ID: <003801c3b6e5$5e099c40$b46f4b42@Cleo>
In-reply-to: <20031129075415.71C443907EF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Importance: Normal
X-archive-position: 1878
X-UIDL: 367719629
Status: U

From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Re: Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:09:30 -0600
Thread-Index: AcO2UnmWoQvQZ++6Q3ixZyFUVL+6JAAan/IA
In-Reply-To: <KDEAJAKAMNNHAGEOBJJGKEDECIAA.tyto2820@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-Id: <20031129205533.8048339075D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
X-archive-position: 1877
X-UIDL: 367719546
Status: U

From: "Andrew Kendon" <tyto2820@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Re: Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:25:44 -0000
Message-ID: <KDEAJAKAMNNHAGEOBJJGKEDECIAA.tyto2820@xxxxxxxxxxx>
In-Reply-To: <20031129075415.71C443907EF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
X-archive-position: 1876
X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
X-UIDL: 367719363

From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:08:08 -0600
Thread-Index: AcO2T+xNhexrCftGROWA/qOhV8rY9w==
Message-Id: <20031129075415.71C443907EF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
X-archive-position: 1875
X-UIDL: 367719358

There's another amusing MS specific thing going on here, too. Note that
all the messages sent by Outlook 2003 have a message ID built from a raw
date stamp? For instance: 
Message-Id: <20031129075415<snip> = Nov 29, 2003 at 07:54 AM and 15
seconds

Greg Chapman
http://www.mousetrax.com 
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With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christine
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 7:58 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
> 
> 
> Has anyone gotten this to work with Outlook 2002?  When I
> change from subject to conversation, and then use the group
> by, it still doesn't put the original post with the
> responses.  I added conversation to the fields and removed
> subject.  I then did a right mouse click on the field names,
> clicked on customize current view, then did group by
> conversation.  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Christine
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dian Chapman
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:08 AM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Fixing the MSO sorting issue!
> 
> 
> Okay...so once before I explained how you can sort posts by
> setting up a custom view and setting the group by subject.
> That worked in all groups, except for this one, due to the
> way the group title [mso] is inserted within the subject and
> around the RE:...causing the original Q to stand out from
> all the replies to it.
> 
> But it appears I found a solution (again<g>). Rather than
> setting the group to SUBJECT...set it to CONVERSATION! This
> appears to keep ALL subject together...even the wacky ones
> from this group!<ducking from Linda!>
> 
> I THINK this option is available in all (most) previous
> versions of Outlook. I'm using 2003...but believe it was
> around before.=20
> 
> Click on the folder with your support posts (or you
> inbox...whichever you need to sort). Click View > Arrange by
> (or whatever your version says that's
> similar) > Custom and set GROUP BY to CONVERSATION. I tried
> it and now the Qs are grouped with all the RE: replies.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Dian D. Chapman
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