Linda, You can use the expression builder. It contains the same prompts as your wizard. The only thing you do is enter field names (or values) instead of cell references. While you need to do a little to get to it, (not a lot) it isn't much different than the Excel wizard. One of the best things is, I can add a column to my query window without affecting my formula. Depending on whether or not you use absolute references in Excel, adding a column or row, could cause problems. James -----Original Message----- From: Linda F. Johnson [mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:36 PM To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mso] Re: Database or Spreadsheet :VSMail mx3 Right...so without the wizard, you need to understand the math behind the formula...that is my whole point. Excel's Paste Function feature does not require that you have ANY knowledge of the math behind the formula....that's what Excel does...You plug in the numbers and it does the math! If Access has a wizard like this, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me where it is! Linda Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com ABC Free Ezine ~ Free Ebooks and Tutorials *all outgoing mail scanned by Norton AV. If you got a bug that looks like it came from me, it did NOT! -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James LaBorde Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:24 PM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] Re: Database or Spreadsheet :VSMail mx4 Linda, Access does have the same Pmt function, with the same parameters. The only thing you lack is the wizard to put it in. I am sure that is around too if you really wanted it. James ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles ************************************************************* ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************