[moneytalks] Re: An edit combo for items

Dave:

When you export such a Quicken account to a .qif file, does the .qif file =
retain information which is not a check number? In other words, does the N =
field contain stuff besides numbers?

Rob Meredith

>>> dspeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx 12/15/04 10:40AM >>>
I have to agree.  I have been using Quicken for years and this is how =
things
are done there.  One field contains check numbers, Debit, EFT, Dep. etc.
This could be less confusing to some people if all of that were in one =
field
instead of having a separate field for Deposit / Debit and one for check
numbers.

Regards,
Dave



----- Original Message -----=20
From: <sindy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:27
Subject: [moneytalks] Re: An edit combo for items


> Suzanne, I agree with you. I fill out the place to which I wrote a check
or
> made a check card purchase in the payee/payer field (walmart, belllsouth,=

> etc.) and then put notations such as the check number or deposit or =
check
> card in the item field. Your logic makes perfect sense. It is the same
sort
> of logic I use. I like to know where my money goes.
> Synthia M. Greenwell
> Program Coordinator
> 20/200 Fellowship, Inc.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: <TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx>
> To: <moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:06 PM
> Subject: [moneytalks] Re: An edit combo for items
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/14/2004 3:16:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> rmeredith@xxxxxxx writes:
> Suzanne:
>
> The problem is that you are describing pay names, not  items. I think
items
> =3D
> are generally numbers. Why do you wish to move pay  name data to the =
item
=3D
> field?
>
> Rob Meredith
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> I suppose the answer to your question is I want to know from where my
money
> came and to whom it went. Then, I want to know how it arrived or left.
> Check
> Card Purchase, ACH Deposit, etc. fulfill the second portion of this
> requirement, while 7 Eleven, Buy For Less, Wal Mart, Sears  Roebuck,
> Oklahoma Natural
> Gas, US Cellular, and the like fulfill the first.  This is why I edit =
the
> transactions. Granted, part of my problem may be that I  have never used
any
> money
> management software and thus have a distorted,  preconceived notion of =
how
> things are supposed to be. This notion is based on  my pre-marriage,
> pre-technology, braille Check register and my own sense of  organization.=

>
> Here are some examples of why I like my sense of organization, and why  =
I
> will probably keep doing things my way no matter how the software
behaves.
>
> 1. I am a private contractor who does both Braille Translation and
> technology Consulting work. This year, my income came from 21 sources. I
> would  rather
> see the sources of my income in the Payer/Payee field instead of  the =
word
> Deposit. Then I could use the restricted view and quickly learn how  =
much
I
> made
> from whom. Currently, this is done in an Excel spreadsheet, but I  am
> falling
> in love with this program and would rather do it here. Admittedly,  most
of
> these transactions will be made manually in the future, because they  =
are
> not
> recurring or consistent.
> 2. Having Farmers Insurance in the payer/Payee field rather than ACH
> Deposit
> for my husband's payroll deposit allows me to identify his income  =
without
> going to the memo field. Besides, I delete the memo field for these
> Entries,
> because they splash his Social Security number out there for all the
world
> to
> see.
> 3. If the names Geoffrey or Stephen Tritten are placed in the  Payer/Paye=
e
> field rather than Deposit to acknowledge that my sons have made  their =
car
> insurance payment installments, I can highlight either name,  restrict =
the
> view,
> and quickly prove to myself, or one of them if  necessary, whether they
are
> on
> track or behind in their  payments.
> 4. Along the same lines, if I place 7 Eleven, Shell Oil, and Texaco in
the
> Payer field instead of Check Card Purchase, I can learn how much we =
spend
> on
> Auto Fuel. Then, I could learn just how much of that money was spent at
any
> of
> the three above-mentioned companies.
>
> By now, even if you see my point, I have left an opening for another
> question. Why put anything in the Item field, if it isn't a check =
number?
>
> The answer to that question is: The terms Check Card Purchase, ACH
Deposit,
> etc. let me know just how the money entered or left my accounts.  Maybe =
I
> like
> this extra proof, since I have to fill out self-employment tax  forms. I
> keep
> receipts and bank statements, but I cannot see them. Therefore,  the
> notation
> in the account grid is my proof.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> >>> TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx 12/14/04 02:48PM  >>>
>
>
>
>
>
> =3D20
> Here is a list of the items that appear in the Payer/Payee  field of my
=3D20
> imported .qif files. The most common are: ACH Deposit, ACH  W/D,
> Withdrawal,=3D
> =3D20
> Deposit, ATM W/D, Check Card Purchase,  And  Check. I have also seen:
Check
> =3D
> Card=3D20
> Refund, Monthly Account Fee,  and Loan Payment.=3D20
> =3D20
> Of course Check appears in the Payer/Payee  field, when a check number =
=3D20
> appears in the Item  field.=3D20
> =3D20
> These are the things I move to the Item field, when I edit  transactions.=

I
> =3D
> =3D20
> also use several of these entries in the Item  field, when I manually =
=3D
> create =3D20
> transactions, and it would be a time  saver if I did not have to enter
each
> =3D
> one =3D20
> letter for  letter.
> =3D20
> Suzanne
> =3D20
> In a message dated 12/14/2004 10:39:16  A.M. Central Standard Time, =
=3D20
> rmeredith@xxxxxxx  writes:
> Suzanne:
>
> We are still trying to find the formal deffinition  of  what an item
should
> =3D
> =3D3D
> be. It appears that in most cases,  banks only export  item information =
=3D
> when =3D3D
> it is a check, and  of course, this is the check  number. Since this is
the
> =3D
> =3D3D
> case,  the item field is not useful as it might  be, especially for  =
=3D3D
> non-check users.
>
> I would be interested to know  what others  are finding in the item =
field
=3D
> =3D3D
> when importing.
>
> Rob   Meredith
>
> >>> TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx 12/14/04 10:47AM   >>>
> =3D3D20
> In a message dated 12/10/2004 11:15:31 A.M.  Central  Standard Time, =
=3D3D20
> TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx  writes:
> Hi.
>
> Since the  item field in the New Transaction dialog  could  contain =3D
> anything  =3D3D
> =3D3D20
> from a check number to  ATM w/d or ACH deposit or  electronic  check,
would
> =3D
> =3D3D
> it=3D3D20
> be =3D3D20
> possible to make this field an  edit   combo like so many of the other =
=3D3D
> fields=3D3D20
> in  =3D3D20
> this  dialog?dar > Deposit
> for my husband's pa
>
> The  reason I ask, is that I do most  of my banking  electronically. If =
I
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> =3D3D
> did  =3D3D20
> not  have children who needed money  for band trips, wrestling tournament=

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> =3D3D
> =3D3D20
> fees, =3D3D20
> and other  school-related expenses, I  would probably write only  25
checks
> =3D
> =3D3D
> a   =3D3D20
> year.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> The reason I asked this  question  last week is this. Each month I may
have
> =3D
> =3D3D
> =3D3D20
> about fifty entries in my  bank statement. Six or  seven of these =
entries
=3D
> =3D3D
> will be =3D3D20
> checks. the   remaining forty plus entries will be check card purchases,
=3D
> =3D3D
> check  =3D3D20
> card bill pays, automatic deposits, atm  withdrawals, etc. I would like
to
> =3D
> =3D3D
> be =3D3D20
> able to press  a few letters followed by down arrow to place  the right =
=3D
> item  =3D3D
> in=3D3D20
> the field rather than enter each transaction's  item  manually. Is =3D
> this=3D3D20
> possible?  Or, since the program is   remembering check numbers, is my =
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> desire out of=3D3D20
> the    question?
> =3D3D20
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