[modeleng] Re: modeleng Digest V4 #217
- From: Norman Clasper <normanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:02:56 +0100
On 10 Oct 2007, at 07:25, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
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> From: <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [modeleng] Plasti-Kote Paint
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:18:13 +0100
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> Hi All,
> From my recent experience never use this paint.
>
> I needed a small can of Black Gloss Paint for the running boards
> of my latest 5" gauge loco but just lately such cans seem to have
> all but disappeared.
>
> The only paint that I could find in small quantities was Plasti-
> Kote which from the description on the jar seemed OK being
> described as suitable for just about everything. The only
> difference being that it needed Thinners for brush cleaning which
> seemed to indicate that it was a type of Cellulose paint.
>
> The instructions also said the it dried without brush marks.
>
> On using the stuff the first problem is that it is fast drying and
> does not give time for the brush marks to level out.
> Having given the running boards two coats it looked as though they
> had been painted with a Tar brush so I decided to sand them down
> after letting the paint dry for one week.
> On trying to sand them, the paint was so soft that it tended to
> roll rather than sand down. Having got them as smooth as I could I
> was going to wipe the surfaces over with a rag moistened with
> White Spirit to remove dust, remembering that the paint was
> thinners based. When the White Spirit touched the paint it promptly
> softened and smeared making a real mess.
>
> I then decided to remove all the paint using Paint Stripper and
> start again.
> I gave it a good coating of stripper, left it for half an hour and
> then tried to wash it off. Whilst some paint came off, it basically
> turned to a sticky mess and still stuck to the metal.
>
> I then gave it another dose of stripper, left it for two hours and
> when I tried to wash it off, it again left a sticky messy surface.
> The question therefore is what is this stuff if Thinners and White
> Spirit attack it and is semi immune to stripper.
>
> It looks like the only way that I am going to get this rotten stuff
> off it to dump the running boards into a bucket of Thinners.
>
> Having hunted all over the place for small tins of real Black
> Gloss paint, I eventually found one in a little DIY Shop called the
> Jolly Bodger so when I do get the paint off, hopefully I can do a
> decent job this time.
>
> Regards
>
> Clif
>
>
Hi All
I had exactly the same problem with Plasti-Kote. Not only did it
leave a mess - when I rubbed it down and resprayed from the same can,
the new layer lifted at all the places where there was a feathered
edge - if you want to make a 'crackle finish ', this is the way to do
it!!
I just painted on cellulose thinners which removed it in minutes. BTW
- I bought cell thinners from a place which sells paints etc for car
restoration. ( They make retail prices look very silly ). And do
remember how flammable it is.
I now use their products (carefully avoiding the two pack isocyanate
paints) and find I get much better results, using a fairly large
airbrush.
Regards
NormanC
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