[modeleng] Re: drawing identity

From Lowe, (British Steam Locomotive Builders):
The company was...Neilson & Mitchell.. and Reid took over in 1884, ,but it 
was 1998 before the name was changed to Neilson, Reid & Co.
In 1903 they joined with Sharp Stewart, & Dubs & co to form North british 
Locomotive Co.

Thus this one must date between 1898 and 1903.

The last works numbers he mentions are 4742 dated 1894, & 5043 dated 1896.
.

Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pagett" <john_pagett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: drawing identity


Alan,

There are two numbers on the drawing, 6464 and E896. I think one may be a
drawing number and one may refer to the loco's works number.

If that is the case, then I'm sure I've heard of some builders using an "E"
prefix for the engine's works number, although I don't know whether this was
the case with Neilson Reid.

The cab shape does look like a Great Northern style to me (but I'm no
expert) - I'd compare it with the GN two atlantics and the GN 0-6-0 saddle
tank if I were you.

I've also read that GAs (general assembly drawings) were produced for
customers, rather than internal works use.

Looking at the details below the footplate, there appears to be two brake
cylinders - one is shown as a circle on the plan view, and can also be made
out on the side elevation. There is what may be another behind this one,
almost at the very rear of the loco. Is there anybody in the list that can
confirm this and also decide whether the cylinder is likely to be steam or
vacuum. If it is vacuum then that doesn't suggest a loco destined for
shunting a yard, though I think it would probably need to be a larger
diameter for vacuum use.

I presume it's not a tank engine - no sign of a bunker.

There's quite a comprehensive list here http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j.shtml
of LNER 0-6-0s, and some of the early ones look convincing in some areas,
but I haven't found one that corresponds everywhere - get the cab right and
the safety valve or dome or chimney look wrong.

Good luck with the search!

Cheers,

JohnP


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