Hi Patrick and All, Whilst I take your comments onboard most of them can now be applied to England where Political Correctness now dictates what you can and cannot say and makes it a Criminal offence to express your opinions if it doesn't agree with the do gooders. Regards Clif -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.