[modeleng] Re: What's happening to the list?
- From: "John Buckley" <jbuckley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 06:17:14 +1000
Terry, Broad Shoulders???
I agree that the list should have a mix of both on topic and off topic. The
Group is a Pseudo Club and topic will vary. If one is not happy with a
particular topic there is also a 'delete' key on the keyboard, and, yes I
use it to delete things that are not of great interest after I have more the
most part read them.
I would be very dissapointed if the list failed due to policy matters. The
comment about all work and no play is very relevant but so is Alan's comment
re lack of computer time and his need to get straight to the point of any ME
messsages.
I think that 'we' get into periods where comments get to be few and far
between so the O/T chatter gets goings, if for no other reason to see some
messages appear in the 'In Box'.
As for my own work it has not been very productive at all lately. I have
made a few headlights for the trakm but have not been 'happy with the
outcome' as they look out of place. So it will be back to the pencil and
paper as soon as I finish making points for the railway here at Tamworth.
Regards to all,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: What's happening to the list?
>
> A well put response AJ, there are probably a multitude of reasons for the
> current slump, however I do feel that the heavy crackdown on OT is a
> significant contributing factor. Not just my opinion, but, as we have
seen,
> the opinion of others on the list and I have recieved a number of private
> emails indicating a similar feeling. I also know of several ex members who
> became ex because of the restriction, so that cuts both was as well.
>
> Lucky I got broad shoulders, a more sensitive person could well have
become
> somewhat miffed to be told they had 'popped up' (out of the blue as it
were)
> with my post when all I was doing was responding to a posted question.
>
> As one person commented to me - pehaps it's time we pushed the envelope a
> little, just to see what level of OT freelists will tolerate.
>
>
>
> > I think that there are several reasons for the list being quiet at
> present.
> > The "old" list used to be quieter in summer than in winter and Andy's
> Board
> > has fewer posts than a few months ago.
> > I expect many members are busy making things, or out and about, rather
> than
> > spending time at the computer.
> >
> > Another reason for the list being quiet, is that usually I try to post
> > topics that will generate some responses and discussion.
> > Unfortunately, I have been, and still am, rather busy with work right
now,
> > and havent been able to devote as much time to the list as I would like.
> > From being on-line several times each day, I am now only on-line every
> > couple of days.
> >
> >
> > As for "moderation", in fact, this list is not moderated.
> > That would mean that all messages were sent to me, or the other
> moderators,
> > to approve, before sending them to the list.
> >
> > Having said that, I will elaborate about the "off topic" policy.
> >
> > When Andy closed the "old" list, I felt that it left a gap, and several
> > people agreed with me.
> > Therefore I looked round for a host for a new list.
> > I found four.
> > Topica, which, as many will recall caused a lot of problems and was
> dropped
> > by Andy. For that reason, I ignored them.
> >
> > Two of them were advertising-supported, one by sending sales emails to
all
> > list members, the other, by selling the email addresses to marketting
> > companies.
> > I would not accept that for myself, so wouldnt ask anyone else to do so.
> >
> > And, there is Freelists.
> >
> > I even investigated paid-for lists. The cheapest I found cost $50 PER
> MONTH.
> >
> > Hence, as far as I could discover, the only reasonable host was
> > freelists.There service seems good, but at the start, they did send me
> > emails warning about there insistance on keeping lists that they host to
> the
> > topic on that list.
> > Now, quite how often they check and what level of "off topic" posts a
list
> > could have before attracting their ire, I have no idea.
> >
> > There is also the point that whenever a list goes "off topic" some
members
> > object and leave. Whether they are right, or wrong, to do so is a matter
> of
> > opinion.
> > On the other hand, when one insists on keeping the list on topic, some
> > members object, which just proves the old adage that one cannot please
all
> > the people all of the time!
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally, this, or any, list or forum, is for the members and should be
> what
> > the majority want. How active it is depends upon them, and what people
> post.
> >
> > If the majority feel that some off-topic posts should be allowed, I am
> quite
> > happy with that, although there is a risk in that it might result in
the
> > list being closed down.
> > As I said earlier, I dont know how "off topic" one can get before that
> > happens.
> >
> >
> > Alan Stepney
> >
> >
> > http://www.alanstepney.info
> > Model Engineering & steam engine information pages
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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