I think that there are several reasons for the list being quiet at present. The "old" list used to be quieter in summer than in winter and Andy's Board has fewer posts than a few months ago. I expect many members are busy making things, or out and about, rather than spending time at the computer. Another reason for the list being quiet, is that usually I try to post topics that will generate some responses and discussion. Unfortunately, I have been, and still am, rather busy with work right now, and havent been able to devote as much time to the list as I would like. From being on-line several times each day, I am now only on-line every couple of days. As for "moderation", in fact, this list is not moderated. That would mean that all messages were sent to me, or the other moderators, to approve, before sending them to the list. Having said that, I will elaborate about the "off topic" policy. When Andy closed the "old" list, I felt that it left a gap, and several people agreed with me. Therefore I looked round for a host for a new list. I found four. Topica, which, as many will recall caused a lot of problems and was dropped by Andy. For that reason, I ignored them. Two of them were advertising-supported, one by sending sales emails to all list members, the other, by selling the email addresses to marketting companies. I would not accept that for myself, so wouldnt ask anyone else to do so. And, there is Freelists. I even investigated paid-for lists. The cheapest I found cost $50 PER MONTH. Hence, as far as I could discover, the only reasonable host was freelists.There service seems good, but at the start, they did send me emails warning about there insistance on keeping lists that they host to the topic on that list. Now, quite how often they check and what level of "off topic" posts a list could have before attracting their ire, I have no idea. There is also the point that whenever a list goes "off topic" some members object and leave. Whether they are right, or wrong, to do so is a matter of opinion. On the other hand, when one insists on keeping the list on topic, some members object, which just proves the old adage that one cannot please all the people all of the time! Finally, this, or any, list or forum, is for the members and should be what the majority want. How active it is depends upon them, and what people post. If the majority feel that some off-topic posts should be allowed, I am quite happy with that, although there is a risk in that it might result in the list being closed down. As I said earlier, I dont know how "off topic" one can get before that happens. Alan Stepney http://www.alanstepney.info Model Engineering & steam engine information pages MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.