Very interesting question ! For the time beeing I make swarfs (making things to make things!), big noise in the workshop when I make mistakes. During the two last months I made a small press using a car steering gear ( but not the same design described in MEW) and a small butane gas forge ( may be I'll never use it but it is JIC). My BIG PROJECT for 2005 is a steam loco (my first one). Further to the good advices I got from YOU I still hesitate between a Sweet Pea and a Jack. I still need few more nights to decide which one will be my Love....... PIerre pierre.courbouleix@xxxxxxxxxx MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.