[modeleng] Re: Vanes Boiler Works

Harry,
I did get the message,no problem, and I will more then likely *not* use 
gas cylinders .
A small boiler (say 15 " high, 6" diameter) for low pressure and short 
term use, is something I might be tempted by.
All would of course depend on the material and the info on said materials.
I would not take risks with any pressure vessel, be it steam, or 
something else.
As I stated before, it is not being "tight fisted",that is my problem, 
it is finding suppliers here.
I have found a company, that will sell me Cu, in the country "next 
door", in the quantities I need for smaller boiler work, but the prices 
are "of a perverse nature", but it is one of the few outlets that is 
willing to sell me stuff.
I will have to get in contact with the firm I worked for over a quarter 
of a century ago, but as I said in a previous post, the have gone all 
"better then thou",so I don't give that much of chance either,but it is 
worth a try...

A note on the "/as diplomatically as possible/" expression.
Harry, I have no problem, listening to the advise of my seniors and my 
betters, as far as engineering experience goes.
So, you can even shout at me if you feel the need (just use bold print...)
I am really not that sensitive, and I am sorry if I have ever given that 
impression.

Also, before I "launched" the idea, I had never (and still haven't) cut 
up a gas cylinder!
You have to admit, that there might have been a possibility, that the 
idea had some merit, and/or somebody else had tried it.
Obviously, as far as this list goes,that is not the case and that is 
representative enough.

It is just, that the other day, I had seen some publicity from a company 
that makes model boilers, and when I started to calculate, it led me to 
the conclusion, that the boiler I was interested in, would cost me 
almost as much in materials,when bought locally, as the price the 
company asked for it!
You have to admit, that there is something wrong with that.
 
Another thing you have to understand, is the mentality of traders in 
this place. They all have the idea, that *they *are doing you a favor, 
if they allow you to spend your money with them. Service, and customer 
care are truly unknown concepts here.
Most of these traders, have very little knowledge of there own product, 
and will treat an inquiry into the  specifications of their product as 
,at best, as an "inconvenience" .
This is very different to the UK, for instance, even stores like Tesco's 
are a revelation to me every time I go to England and shop there!
The girls actually know in which rack or row a product is displayed! I 
challenge anybody to try that over here!!
Most engineering supply  firms are just as bad as the supermarkets.

That is why the possibility,of using easily obtained materials, filled 
me with some enthusiasm.
I will give a report of my dealings with local companies, if it were 
only for the amusement of the forum.


Patrick




Harry Wade wrote:
> At 03:24 PM 9/19/07 -0700, you wrote:
>   
>> How about an empty Oxygen bottle??
>>     
>
> Al,
>        What some of us have been trying to do, as diplomatically as
> possible, is tell Patrick that old tanks are not a good idea and that
> sometimes it's best for all concerned to go ahead and get the right
> material for the job.
>
> Regards,
> Harry
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